View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nice play on words, but no. Not being able to discriminate based on race doesn't make anyone a servent.
    It's not a play on words at all. Unless you have a different definition of "servant" than I do?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what? are you admitting government is violating the bakers right........ you dont like the Constitution at all, it it gets in your way do you.

    government passes a standard of conduct.????....hmmmm. then that would also give them the power to set conduct for how we behave in our life's to.......no sleeping around, no over eating or drinking, no foul language, no porn, ......i wonder when government got authority to be a moral entity.....since it is composed of people, ...so elected leaders, are morally superior to me and the rest of the population.

    your Jim crow law does not work, that was government discrimination, and it has been stated to you several times and you keep using it, because you out of ammo.
    If businesses are allowed to discriminate, then the allowance of that discrimination must be backed by the force of law...which effectively makes it Jim Crow in all but name. You can deny it all you want...but that, sir, is a fact.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah, and that last part is why we have Civil Rights.
    Do show where a person has a right to force others to provide service to them.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    If businesses are allowed to discriminate, then the allowance of that discrimination must be backed by the force of law...which effectively makes it Jim Crow in all but name. You can deny it all you want...but that, sir, is a fact.
    Why must it be backed by law?

    And why allow one form of discrimination against another form of discrimination?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes, it still does exist. But like the rest of my statement says that you apparently ignored, its not near as rampant as many would like to believe or espouse.
    Are you white? If so, that's probably why you don't think it's nearly as rampant as non-whites know it to be. The fact that you don't see signs enforcing racism doesn't mean it isn't there. Live with non-whites for a while, get them to truly trust you, that they know you're on their side...and then they'll start giving example after example after example of how they are discriminated against even today.

    Wait - let me guess - you're going to tell me you've got some black friends who told you this and that, right? Mm-hmm...sure.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Are you white? If so, that's probably why you don't think it's nearly as rampant as non-whites know it to be. The fact that you don't see signs enforcing racism doesn't mean it isn't there. Live with non-whites for a while, get them to truly trust you, that they know you're on their side...and then they'll start giving example after example after example of how they are discriminated against even today.

    Wait - let me guess - you're going to tell me you've got some black friends who told you this and that, right? Mm-hmm...sure.


    nonsense. are you white? and it works both ways



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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Everyone discriminates. I don't go to rap concerts or tractor pulls. There is no right to racial discrimination but nothing stops an individual to not accept white or black friends. If you are talking about companies that serve the public the right to discriminate doesn't exist.
    And everybody sometimes wants to punch the other guy in the face sometimes, too...but that doesn't make it right or acceptable to actually do it.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Are you white? If so, that's probably why you don't think it's nearly as rampant as non-whites know it to be. The fact that you don't see signs enforcing racism doesn't mean it isn't there. Live with non-whites for a while, get them to truly trust you, that they know you're on their side...and then they'll start giving example after example after example of how they are discriminated against even today.

    Wait - let me guess - you're going to tell me you've got some black friends who told you this and that, right? Mm-hmm...sure.
    You already think you know the answer so why should I bother? You've already made up your mind about me without knowing me in the slightest.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And everybody sometimes wants to punch the other guy in the face sometimes, too...but that doesn't make it right or acceptable to actually do it.
    Apples and oranges. He talks about doing things that discriminate but does not interfere with other peoples rights. You on the other hand talk about violating peoples rights.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes, you are serving them. That's what the whole service industry is about. Serving. The name is built right in there. The difference here is whether you are serving someone willingly or unwillingly. Willingly, you are not a servant. Unwillingly and you are a servant.
    So, are you saying if I dislike serving a cranky person I'm suddenly a servant? I must be a slave then because I served plenty a cranky person in my life. I didn't run around telling people I was a slave though because I understood 98% of the time it had nothing to do with me just like the attributes of another person has nothing to do with me. I'm only a slave to my own prejudices and not a slave to another person wanting to do business with me.

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