View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And while you're chewing on that one, can you name any time in American history when speech was more free than today?
    sure, back in the past, if you were my employee, and you started..sh*t with me.....i would tell you shut the fvck up and get out and dont come back.

    today you would go to government to punish me, and get money out of me!

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    civil rights are civil privileges they are not rights,

    governments cannot create a natural right..which right to property is.

    my feelings of prejudice?....is it about me now?
    Um, no Civil rights are rights.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sure, back in the past, if you were my employee, and you started..sh*t with me.....i would tell you shut the fvck up and get out and dont come back.

    today you would go to government to punish me, and get money out of me!
    Um, no, pick a year - any year - and tell me when your freedom of speech, your ability to protest, to speak out for what you thought was right...was greater than it is right now.
    To do evil, a human being must first of all believe that what hes doing is good" - Solzhenitsyn

    "...with the terrorists, you have to take out their families." - Donald Trump

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if you as a person, commits a crime or health and safety, they can, if they take a right for no reason then they are in violation of the law....do you support that glen?
    I'm talking about how even without you having committed any crime, and you've posed no risks to others' health or safety...there is not a single right that the government cannot find a way to legally take away from you.

    And if you think about it, this is true not only here in America, but all over the world (unless you can find an island or deserted oil platform where you can make your own nation).
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Um, no Civil rights are rights.

    sorry no, you don't have a natural right to be served my me....that's illogical

    as stated before..nothing can be a right it it lays a cost or burden on another citizen...... that is why food and water, cannot be a right.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I'm talking about how even without you having committed any crime, and you've posed no risks to others' health or safety...there is not a single right that the government cannot find a way to legally take away from you.

    And if you think about it, this is true not only here in America, but all over the world (unless you can find an island or deserted oil platform where you can make your own nation).
    i know the government uses injustice..i think we all know that......which is what they are going in these cases.

    which is why the founders sought a republican form of government not a democratic one.....which is tyranny, and the left wants.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Oh, right, I see. You didn't go into business to sell your (general you) products for a profit, but to feel good about yourself denying me that bottle of water because of my attributes. Thanks for explaining. It gives the motto the pursuit of happiness new meaning
    Exactly. People get into business to make themselves feel good and to better their lives. The amount of profits one makes is just one factor in this.

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    I'm not talking about horse trading. I'm talking about doing a normal business transaction.
    All transactions work on the same principle.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    nothing can be a right it it lays a cost or burden on another citizen
    So voting cannot be a right since it costs the taxpayers money in order to hold an election.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes. There is most definitely a lesson to be learned in that movie. These white wealthy men felt it was there right to treat people like property. People are not property and should not be treated as such. What exactly is your point?
    No. That's not the lesson. You cannot own another person. That's true, but you do, always, own yourself. You are your own property. The rest of your property is an extension of you. You own your labor. I can't force you to trade your labor to me for any reason. Do you think I should be able to?

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Um, no Civil rights are rights.
    The original meaning of the term did in fact refer to rights, but under the current meaning of the term, it does not.

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