View Poll Results: What's More Important - the "Right" to Discriminate, or Freedom From Discrimination?

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    38 33.04%
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    77 66.96%
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    No, it's not impossible to prove...it simply takes time and effort...and the wheels of justice grind slowly, but exceeding fine.
    almost impossible
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I don't see it playing out the way you do. I honestly couldn't even imagine a business opting to exclude anyone based on anything. They could never get away with it in this day and age. The press they got would drive them out of business. It would be like being exposed as using the N word times ten thousand. Public outcry would be over the top (as it ought to be)

    You're not going to convince me that acting in a way that I basically consider criminal (initiating aggression against my fellow man) is the only possible solution to racial discrimination. I won't support it, and I urge others, if they value justice, to not support it either.
    I can see it because I know the South. Remember, even now we still have some places in the South that have segregated high school proms. Racism is stronger there than most non-Southern people realize. And all it would take is just one successful racist business to start us down that vicious circle to a market-enforced Jim Crow era.
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Soooo...what nation today or in the past had what you feel to be the right kind of government?
    the founders, when they created a republican form of government, of divided power, with no dominate factor ruling.

    democratic governments have a dominate factor" the people", and the people when given all the power will rule as tyrants by majority rule,....which is what i am seeing by people opposing constitutional law.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i am on the side of the constitution, i will blast anyone on the right, which goes against constitutional law!
    Like where the Constitution allows the federal government to regulate any and all interstate commerce?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you are incapable of discerning just from unjust discrimination? It's amazing you can function.
    I can distinguish between what I find a just opinion and a just expression thereof and what I find disturbing. I can distinguish between what i think is wrong or right. But no. In an objective sense within a relatively broad band, I do not think that we are capable of distinguishing objectively. So if someone is to be allowed to make the decision? Otherwise I don't think I want people or, God forbid, the government holding such power.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I'm not making an unjustly demand. You're open for business. I'm acting respectful and will pay what you want for your product. Why can't I buy it? The man in front of me did and so did the man behind me. Please explain.
    if you tell me, I MUST SERVE YOU , that's a demand anyway you wish to slice it....and its unconstitutional by the 13th amendment

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the founders, when they created a republican form of government, of divided power, with no dominate factor ruling.

    democratic governments have a dominate factor" the people", and the people when given all the power will rule as tyrants by majority rule,....which is what i am seeing by people opposing constitutional law.
    So...you hearken back to the Articles of Confederation, then?
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Like where the Constitution allows the federal government to regulate any and all interstate commerce?
    wrong...that is incorrect, the Constitution states the power to regulate..AMONG the states.....not inside them.

    this power was given the the federal government to prevent trade wars and barriers, which states were creating by laws between states under the articles of confederation, causing commerce in America to come to a stand still.

    it is in 1942, the court ruled the federal government would regulate inside states.............why?..........because a farmer grew to much wheat according to the government to feed to his cows!!
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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if you tell me, I MUST SERVE YOU , that's a demand anyway you wish to slice it....and its unconstitutional by the 13th amendment
    No, your not a servant your a businessman. You are not there to serve me but to conduct business.

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    Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So...you hearken back to the Articles of Confederation, then?
    i dont have to , here is the Constitution itself...


    article 4 section 4



    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

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