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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    can vote for pay raises for their own,
    In theory, government employees can do the same thing.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true, I was a public employee for more than 20 years.
    Really? I'll have to keep that in mind. WOW!!!!

    Why am I not surprised in the least bit?

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    Awfully presumptious of you to claim that anyone who argues against you is simply living off of the government
    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Just stereotyping. Real rich people don't waste their time crying all the time. 10 times out of 10 if someone is being judgemental about someone bumming off of the government is probably bumming off of the government. If he has never been a government employee, I will take back everything I said.
    Let's make that 11 out of 11. Whoops! Turtledude told a truth.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Think Progress forgot to mention that Yelton also said "lazy whites" and "lazy college students".

    Anyone can vote in this country. Short of locking someone in his house and barring the door, how exactly can you ensure someone can't vote?
    By requiring cumbersome and difficult voter ID laws, or reducing the number of polling places in select districts to discourage people with long lines, or cutting back early voting or ending early Sunday voting to mention just a few.
    Low voter turnout has historically favored republicons and they have vigorously sought to exploit that fact by making it as difficult as possible for poor and middle class people to vote.
    This is no longer a coy little secret ...the GOP no longer tries to hide the fact that they want as few people as is possible to have the vote.
    This ridiculous thread is an absurd extension of that strategy.
    Last edited by Buck Ewer; 04-22-14 at 02:20 PM.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    By requiring cumbersome and difficult voter ID laws, or reducing the number of polling places in select districts to discourage people with long lines, or cutting back early voting or ending early Sunday voting to mention just a few.
    Low voter turnout has historically favored republicons and they have vigorously sought to exploit that fact by making it as difficult as possible for poor people to vote.
    This is no longer a coy little secret ...the GOP no longer tries to hide the fact that they want as few people as is possible to have the vote.
    I've always had ID. My kids all have ID. My blind aunt who lives in Arizona has ID.

    Sorry but it's a fallacy that poor people can't get IDs. I've seen them in Cumberland Farms here in NH whipping out their IDs when they are buying cigarettes with their EBT cards.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Really? I'll have to keep that in mind. WOW!!!!

    Why am I not surprised in the least bit?





    Let's make that 11 out of 11.
    Says he who thinks govt employees should be shot.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So Republicans are against oil workers voting?
    Perhaps I could explain this better. Bear with me.

    When my folks came to ND after being in another state, my Pop faced public (though somewhat low level) criticism for being hired where he worked because he was not a "native North Dakotan." Some of my best friends from Arizona or other states likewise faced similar reactions (in their case it was not aired in public mediums, but rather in neighborhoods and schools) because they "weren't from around here."

    North Dakotans, although constantly teased nationally, have a unique sense of pride. This turns us rather conservative toward outsiders. It sometimes reaches xenophobic levels. So when the oil boom hit, you have had two different conservative reactions. First, pro-business Republicans loved the boom because of what it was doing for the state economy after decades of bad news (young people moving out, old people remaining and dying, low job opportunities, etc.). However, you also had many of those who despised what the boom had done, not just to the surrounding environment (North Dakotans aren't exactly coastal suburban types who latch onto alternative energy and environmentalism-they just tend to do things like wind power because it makes sense to them) but also to the operation of daily small town central and eastern North Dakotan life. Traffic increased, our roads were not up to par, housing prices skyrocketed, litter and piss was strewn all over our highway system, crime increased, our local women have felt unsafe, and so on. The image of the boom has flipped between prosperity and small town Grandma and Grandpa being unable to live in town, despite living there for generations. North Dakota life has more or less flipped with the boom, and many folks don't like it and want some measure of the past to come back, and it has been pretty popular in our town presses to look at it that way. A lot of North Dakotans quite simply do not like people from Arizona, California, Michigan, Virginia, and so on and don't want them to determine what goes on in the state anymore than they already do.

    Before the rise of the national Tea Party, I had not heard a single peep about changing Voter ID laws in the State. It was never something seriously considered before, and we had (and still largely do) a lax voting system, along with a Republican-dominated legislature and executive branch. The Tea Party is so strange here that even though we have a Tea Party group, they aren't all that powerful of a force in our politics. It's mostly folks in North Dakota who are sympathetic with the Tea Party cause around the country, but aren't quite really needing to press hard about what's going on in this state. Sure they fire up a storm every once in a while about how we are too comfortable with big government (well, they tend to not discuss the actual socialism in our state which has historically benefited farmers and other groups which tend to support the Tea Party), but I have to tell you, I can't quite figure out what other angst there is besides fashion and the side-effects of the boom.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What about politicians and their families? Or military personnel? Should they all be banned from the polls as well?
    This may not have crossed your mind but these are government employees. No. They shouldn't be allowed to vote either. Especially the military. The family members should be allowed to vote. They aren't public servants. It is absurd that we tolerate the potential for the military to form a voting block. Aren't they supposed to be taking orders. It's ridiculous that military personnel are giving orders.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And how do know the political lean of those 1200 county employees? You don't, and that's a fact.
    You are correct. I do not know how they lean politically in the presidential election nor does that matter. I am pretty certain that I know how they voted for the local candidates.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Says he who thinks govt employees should be shot.
    No. It is noble to be a servant. It is disgusting when a servant thinks that he is in charge. Ask any business owner what they think of employees that act like they are in charge.

    These people already have a job for life. Why should they be allowed to fire their boss?

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I've always had ID. My kids all have ID. My blind aunt who lives in Arizona has ID.

    Sorry but it's a fallacy that poor people can't get IDs. I've seen them in Cumberland Farms here in NH whipping out their IDs when they are buying cigarettes with their EBT cards.
    Can't buy cigarettes with EBT cards.

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