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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    If a conflict of interest exists at all, I suspect it is most pronounced when a public employee union is involved.

    A hypothetical example:

    Two candidates running for a position in state government.
    One candidate supports additional funding to X state agency.
    The union employees of said agency belong to provides financial and other support to that candidate, and they end up winning.
    They implement their policy, and the state agency in question grows, providing additional job opportunities and pay for it's employees.

    Maybe I'm overthinking things, but I tend to see a slight conflict of interests in that.
    so anyone with a potential government contract shouldn't vote. Then of course anyone who sells hotdogs near any Federal building shouldn't vote because one candidate might be a vegetarian...then what?

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    I sometimes ask myself this, and it seems so contrary to how things ought to be that I tend to dismiss it.

    The question usually occurs when I encounter some event/story which highlights the potential and/or actual conflict of interest when employees or (in the case of public employee unions) groups of employees can elect their employers.

    So I decided to put the question to you all: Should public employees be allowed to vote, and what rational supports your position?
    As citizens, of course.

    Where I live the problem is different. Here the laws surrounding public employment are such that the proportion of people in Parliaments that are public employees or are employed by similar organizations has a majority of the seats. As the circumstances under which public employees live (criteria for advancement, job security, large pensions) they constitute a well defined socioeconomic group with largely homogeneous personal interests. As teachers, police, judges, professors all belong to this group there are massive conflicts of interest. The Legislative chooses the Executive from among its leaders and the Judiciary is part of the socioeconomic group. This has created an unintended slant in policy as there is factually no impartial control mechanism.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Yes, they should be allowed to vote. You don't give up your citizenship when you become an employee of Uncle Sam or your state.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Unless we are proposing to turn public employees into serfs, I think we should just let them vote like everyone else.

    As for the former Marine who chose not to vote while in service, perhaps they should continue to avoid voting.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    WTF? What about the CEOs of big business who receive government subsides ...or farmers who get the same... What about politicians and their families? Or military personnel?
    Should they all be banned from the polls as well?
    If the logic is followed to its conclusion, then yes. Anyone sucking on the government teat.
    Which is why I wonder when some people say that citizens on welfare should not have the vote because ' they will always vote themselves more money'. It is no different from a defense contractor voting themselves more money or worse bribing (aka through unlimited and undeclared political contributions) politicians to get 'their share' of the corporate welfare teat.

    I find this to be completely asinine.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Clearly people who live in states that receive more tax money than they pay shouldn't vote either. That's the same conflict of interest. That makes sense, right?

    These sorts of issues are almost always Republicans looking for ways to stop Democrats from voting.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    In a time where Congress can vote for pay raises for their own, I don't see how this is an issue.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    I sometimes ask myself this, and it seems so contrary to how things ought to be that I tend to dismiss it.

    The question usually occurs when I encounter some event/story which highlights the potential and/or actual conflict of interest when employees or (in the case of public employee unions) groups of employees can elect their employers.


    So I decided to put the question to you all: Should public employees be allowed to vote, and what rational supports your position?
    I accidentally hit no, but I say yes.


    My mom works in a county position and she is on my ass to vote for her boss and I can only imagine how worse it would get if she couldn't vote and there would be one less vote.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    I sometimes ask myself this, and it seems so contrary to how things ought to be that I tend to dismiss it.

    The question usually occurs when I encounter some event/story which highlights the potential and/or actual conflict of interest when employees or (in the case of public employee unions) groups of employees can elect their employers.


    So I decided to put the question to you all: Should public employees be allowed to vote, and what rational supports your position?
    Yes. They are citizens.

    While who they vote for may affect their lives, the same goes for all individuals. Should the elderly not be able to vote because they recieve social security and medicare? Should members of the military not be allowed a vote because they can elect their commander in chief? Should veterans not be allowed to vote because they recieve veteran benefits?

    No one votes without some potential impact from those who they're voting for.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes. They are citizens.

    While who they vote for may affect their lives, the same goes for all individuals. Should the elderly not be able to vote because they recieve social security and medicare? Should members of the military not be allowed a vote because they can elect their commander in chief? Should veterans not be allowed to vote because they recieve veteran benefits?

    No one votes without some potential impact from those who they're voting for.
    true, I was a public employee for more than 20 years. The head of the office was presidentially appointed. About half the office voted GOP, about half Dem though suspect nationally the Dems got more votes because they were perceived as being more generous with salaries etc. I will note that the two best office heads I served under were Dem appointees but so was the worst. The GOP appointees were OK but the one before I came was widely considered the best ever.

    No one to the best of my knowledge voted on the presidential ballot based on who might be head of our office



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