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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wtf?

    Those that served their time should be able to vote as well.
    Yeah they should, not arguing that, I'm just stating the law. Felons are barred from voting
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    If the right wing gets their way - pubic employees, minorities and women will all be scrutinized and steps taken to minimize their vote for one simple reason ... they tend NOT to vote for candidates and issues the right wing supports.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Yes of course. They are citizens too. They deserve to have their votes counted.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    Yeah they should, not arguing that, I'm just stating the law. Felons are barred from voting
    Only in eight States.



    Most felons are not interested in the political process.

    And while I agree that a full restoration of rights should be done upon release of State control over the individual, seeking and/or pandering to those who showed flawed thinking in committing a crime in the first place should be discouraged. And as far as I am concerned, shows the same flawed thinking process.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    I sometimes ask myself this, and it seems so contrary to how things ought to be that I tend to dismiss it.

    The question usually occurs when I encounter some event/story which highlights the potential and/or actual conflict of interest when employees or (in the case of public employee unions) groups of employees can elect their employers.


    So I decided to put the question to you all: Should public employees be allowed to vote, and what rational supports your position?
    Of course public employees should vote, they are citizens. However public employee unions should be banned as an unethical conflict of interest for politicians.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Is it a conflict of interest when public employees do it? What about when constituents do it?
    This. Not all interests may be the same, but everybody has an interest of some kind.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Most felons are not interested in the political process.
    I believe that.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    I sometimes ask myself this, and it seems so contrary to how things ought to be that I tend to dismiss it.

    The question usually occurs when I encounter some event/story which highlights the potential and/or actual conflict of interest when employees or (in the case of public employee unions) groups of employees can elect their employers.


    So I decided to put the question to you all: Should public employees be allowed to vote, and what rational supports your position?
    They are citizens. Of course they should vote.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Only in eight States.



    Most felons are not interested in the political process.

    And while I agree that a full restoration of rights should be done upon release of State control over the individual, seeking and/or pandering to those who showed flawed thinking in committing a crime in the first place should be discouraged. And as far as I am concerned, shows the same flawed thinking process.
    They show Iowa as "never". Felons can vote if they get individual permission from the Governor, and they must apply directly to the Governor. It is on a case-by-case basis. The Governor sets the criteria and it is subject to change upon change of Governor.

    This is a current issue and has been on the news a lot in the past year or so.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    They show Iowa as "never". Felons can vote if they get individual permission from the Governor, and they must apply directly to the Governor. It is on a case-by-case basis. The Governor sets the criteria and it is subject to change upon change of Governor.

    This is a current issue and has been on the news a lot in the past year or so.
    Ok, sounds like never to me.

    But really, Mother Jones got it wrong and by proxy, so did I for using it. My bad.
    Oh well. I tried to use the latest chart I could find. That was from Feb of this year.
    The Obama Administration Wants 6 Million Americans to Get Back Their Right to Vote. Here's How. | Mother Jones

    Bothered to look further and found these.

    Iowa - On Jan. 14, 2011, the Republican Governor of Iowa, Terry Branstad, issued executive order 70, rescinding a law allowing people convicted of a felony to automatically have their ability to vote restored after completing their sentences. The automatic voting restoration law had been instituted by former Democratic Governor Tom Vilsack's signing of executive order 42 in 2005. Felons in Iowa must now pay all outstanding monetary obligations to the court in addition to completing their sentence and period of parole or probation. People convicted of a felony may then apply for restoration of the ability to vote.
    State Felon Voting Laws - Felon Voting - ProCon.org




    Disenfranchisement
    In the USA, every state with the exception of Maine and Vermont prohibits felons from voting while in prison.[1] Nine other states disenfranchise felons for various lengths of time following the completion of their probation or parole. However, the severity of each state's disenfranchisement varies.

    Three states, Kentucky, Virginia, and Florida (Gov. Rick Scott reverted to the old policy in 2010 that had been changed by Gov. Charlie Crist), continue to impose a lifelong denial of the right to vote to all citizens with a felony record, in the absence of a restoration of civil rights by the Governor or, where allowed, state legislature.[1] Florida law is somewhat unique, in that the individual must be pardoned by the Governor and a majority of the publicly elected State Cabinet (with the Governor's vote being the tiebreaker, if necessary).
    Loss of rights due to felony conviction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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