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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I have two questions for you:

    Question 1: Have you ever heard of a government "for the people and by the people"? If so, this implies that the people are the highest authority.

    Question 2: Are you a government employee or military member (which is somehow different) ? If so, your disgust for me is justified and mutual.
    I fully understand that you realize that public servants are never going to lose their right to vote. That this thread is an attempt to desensitize the public to the outrage of other voter suppression.
    Your dreams of a country run by an elite oligarchy are absurd and unrealistic.
    I am not an employee of the government nor the military but my disgust towards your ideals is not unique here or across the nation.
    Look at the numbers in your stupid poll.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I fully understand that you realize that public servants are never going to lose their right to vote. That this thread is an attempt to desensitize the public to the outrage of other voter suppression.
    Your dreams of a country run by an elite oligarchy are absurd and unrealistic.
    I am not an employee of the government nor the military but my disgust towards your ideals is not unique here or across the nation.
    Look at the numbers in your stupid poll.
    that I am agreeing with you constantly on this thread should have sent him a rather pointed message



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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I fully understand that you realize that public servants are never going to lose their right to vote. That this thread is an attempt to desensitize the public to the outrage of other voter suppression.
    Your dreams of a country run by an elite oligarchy are absurd and unrealistic.
    In any good oligarchy, the rich and the government workers get to vote, and eliminate the masses from being able to do so. His suggestion merely pollutes the crop of voters.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    1. It doesn't matter what the constitution says. I'm discussing the merits of allowing everyone to vote, not the legality of it.

    2. Your objections about small business owners are noted and valid, but those are merely details to be ironed out. Anyone who owns a business that employs at least 1 person should be able to register to vote.

    3. I never said the elderly should be excluded from voting. Students, if they're under the age of 30, don't have enough life experience to make informed decisions - a requirement since the decisions made in a democracy affect us all.
    Fine, the merits are that our government is actually empowered by the people, as opposed to an elite class of people. It can adhere to the principles of free election and equality. With these kinds of restrictions on voting, we wouldn't really be the USA anymore. And I like the USA being the USA. Don't you?

    2. So what do you have against people who don't employ others, and simply do freelance work on their own? A solo practicing professional takes individual contracts, and isn't employed by anyone, nor has to employ anyone. Why do you want to exclude people like that?

    3. Actually, you did. You said only people who are employed. So every retired person is suddenly out. And your bit about "life experience" is nonsense. For every claim you have that young people don't know enough, I can offer a claim that older people are too self-centered and only care about their continued comfort to vote for positive changes for the country.

    Every part of your idea here is awful and contrary to the best interests of this nation.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    If a conflict of interest exists at all, I suspect it is most pronounced when a public employee union is involved.

    A hypothetical example:

    Two candidates running for a position in state government.
    One candidate supports additional funding to X state agency.
    The union employees of said agency belong to provides financial and other support to that candidate, and they end up winning.
    They implement their policy, and the state agency in question grows, providing additional job opportunities and pay for it's employees.

    Maybe I'm overthinking things, but I tend to see a slight conflict of interests in that.
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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    This may not have crossed your mind but these are government employees. No. They shouldn't be allowed to vote either. Especially the military. The family members should be allowed to vote. They aren't public servants. It is absurd that we tolerate the potential for the military to form a voting block. Aren't they supposed to be taking orders. It's ridiculous that military personnel are giving orders.
    Voting isn't "giving orders."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that I am agreeing with you constantly on this thread should have sent him a rather pointed message
    Yes TD ...You and I don't see eye to eye on many things but what vasuderatorrent is advocating here is Anti-American and just plain crazy.
    I believe he is getting that message.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what are up braying about? I paid more taxes in a quarter than I was paid as a federal LEO for a year. I have other sources of income
    I am just saying that I have never met or even heard of a person that hates the poor so passionately that isn't a government employee. I thought you were different. I gave you credit for being an unusual find. I thought that you meritted your opinion.

    Now I found out that you were a government employee. Can you please help me find a person that looks down on welfare recipients that isn't a government employee who bums off of the government hard core?

    I have never seen it in my whole entire life. I haven't even seen it in this forum. I thought you were different. Honestly. I thought you NEVER BUMMED off of the government. I honestly believed you when you made your self-righteous claims.

    You are bigger government bum than all those people that you hate so much. You f***ed the taxpayers hard core. Food stamp recipients get $500 a month. How much money did you get from the taxpayers? More or less than $500 a month?

    YOU ARE NORMAL!!!

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by ELNOR View Post
    I pay taxes just like you do.
    That's completely impossible. Your paycheck comes from taxes. Your taxes are taxes of taxes. If your taxes exceed your paycheck then yes. You do pay taxes. If your taxes are less than your paycheck then no. You are not paying any taxes whatsover. That would be impossible.

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    Re: Should public employees be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    As we are talking about buying votes, I would say you have a warped sense of reality if you think it occurs as often as it seems you are suggesting.
    Well then, consider me warped, along with nearly every lobbyist, Congressional member, and various corporate interests not only here, but also in many other countries as well. That's just hitting the most notable, too. There are plenty more.

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