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Aereo TV Service

Should Aereo pay for rebroadcast fee's to the Networks?

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I saw this company on the net a year or two ago and though wow that kind of a neat application of technology, I think at the time they were in only two markets.

Summary of Technology:
Within the Radio Frequency spectrum, broadcast television is assigned certain bans they can use as a standard. This allow television manufactures to have common specific frequency "channels" assigned which is a subset or "band" of frequencies at certain points which will contain the video and audio component that we watch. For very strong signals a TV doesn't even need an antenna to receive signals, but to capture more signals and at beater quality we connect an antenna to the TV which enhances the TV reception. Sometimes it could be "rabbit ears" or a newer "blade" antenna that sit on a shelf near the TV. Other time we may run cable from the inside to an antenna on the roof of the house or apartment building. What we can also do is to connect video recording devises between the signal collection point (the antenna) and the TV to record broadcasts to time shift their viewing.

What Aero does is maintain arrays of thousands, tens of thousands of individual antennas connected to recording devices. When the consumer signs up for their service they are allocated resources from one antenna and for storage space. And here is an important distinction each consumer access only ONE antenna that they control along with their allocation of personal storage space. Aero does not collect and rebroadcast one signal, each individual consumer controls the antenna selection. If five different people are watching an over the air broadcast from from the local ABC affiliate, then 5 different antennas are being used and streamed to those homes. Because each consumer has control over their signal, each can use the time shift capabilities of their personal recording to be watching different sigments of the time stream. Say at one point Consumer A and Consumer B are both watching "The Big Bang Theory". Consumer A sits down and watch the show uninterrupted, Consumer B gets phone call and pauses the stream. After a 2 minutes phone call Consumer B continues to watch the show. Because the show is stored in a personal space allocation this shows they are watching two different streams.

Of important point to note, Aero will only allow consumers to collect and time shift signals within the area of the broadcast station. This means that if you are in Washing DC you can't capture and stream New York broadcasters since you are outside the viewing area. Even if you live in New York and are traveling the system will not function once you leave the geographic broadcast area.

"Basically, Aereo uses FCC maps to determine the maximum perimeter around the New York City metropolitan area from which someone with a typical residential TV antenna on her roof would be able to pick up over-the-air signals from New York City. If the customer ventures outside that range, her phone's GPS or wi-fi systems will eventually detect that fact, and Aereo will dutifully cut off reception." (Aereo is leaving the courts dazed and confused - Fortune Tech)​

Broadcasters Argument:
From what I've read of the arguments, the broadcasters are trying to make it appear that Aero is recording their broadcast and retransmitting it to 10's of thousand of customers simultaneously, which of course is a copy-write infringement. From this perspective there would be no difference in what Aero is doing and me recording a movie off SyFy, taking that recording to my local school renting their auditorium and then charging people to come in an watch my recording played for an audience.

Aero's Argument:
On the other side of the coin Aero's claim is that they are not violating copy-write because they are not recording content and reselling it, they are renting hardware (basically antenna array space and digital storage) that the consumer then controls. From their perspective they are not capturing broadcast from public performance (a key term in the case law). By renting hardware, it is the consumer that is capturing the broadcast and routing it to their home, that there is no difference in the application of their technology to a homeowner capturing the signal and routing it to their own hardware (video recording) to watch and/or time shift at their preference.


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The legality of remote storage (i.e. outside the home) was addressed in a suit in 2008 when a cable company offered remote storage outside the home for later viewing by the consumer. The appeals court found it a valid application of technology and not a violation of copy-write law because individual copies were stored to space allocated to individual consumers - the same as what Aero is doing. The cable company under this remote-DVR (digital video recorder) concept did no keep one copy of a show and resell it. The company simply facilitated through technology remote storage for the consumer and it was the consumer that then decided on content and when to view it.


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Yes, and I agree, but cable/satellite providers pay a whole lot to effectively provide the same end result. Aereo isn't just an antenna, it's an antenna for their own retransmissions of channels, that's why there are so many channels available, not just the ones in your area. My tuner/antenna for the laptop only gets local channels, ie what you're talking about. Aereo is more, it is a true rebroadcaster essentially the same as cable/satellite. If my reading of it is accurate anyway.


The Aero service only provide the same channels that are available in the local area. If you live outside an area then you can't subscribe. If you live in the local area and travel outside the area and attempt to use a portable device (laptop, smartphone, tablet) to stream the signal from home their system recognizes that you are outside the viewing area and block delivery of service.



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I went to their site, and it's a bit confusing. It says it's an antenna, but it says it's an internet antenna, which means they could rebroadcast anything live that they have access to, for example getting WGN out of the natural airwave area. It doesn't look like they are doing that though since it's only offered in some cities at this point. It looks like, for the most part, they are providing an alternative antenna option. [/QUOTE

I know however I've seen ads about a different one, a rabbit or something like that, where they claim to be rebroadcasting 1000s of tv and radio stations from around the world. I assumed Aereo was the same, I may be wrong. Evenso, it's exactly what cable and satellite providers DO pay for, and since one can get cable/satellite packages for just the local channels, I'd say the comparison to that level of rebroadcast is the same.

And again, I think neither cable, nor satellite, nor Aereo should be charged to rebroadcast television otherwise available over the normal airwaves.


Aero isn't providing access to the same content as cable providers, pretty much every cable/satellite provider that I know of provides access to CNN, a cable only network. That channel (and other cable only channels) are not available on Aero - you can only rent an antenna to receive over the air broadcasts.



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Me thinks SCOTUS will rule in favor of broadcast, cable and satellite companies. I don't see any other way out of this, it's about how big and how much lobby influence they have, probably more than AEREO.

But, I already have my digital television antenna and don't really care what they do, I became tired of paying $80 a month for BS.


There are two two likely subscriber models for Aero:

1. Someone that lives in a "Dead Zone" caused by buildings or lives in a valley where the signal is blocked.

2. The other is someone that want's to be able to watch TV at different locations and doesn't want to have to lug around a portable TV.​



And to tell the truth I would guess that #2 is probably a higher percentage of their client base, a subscription allows you to rent an antenna and then stream content on the go for local broadcasts. That's kind of nice, I've go cable myself and unlimited data on my phone. I'll often stream CNN as background noise while working at my desk.



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There are two two likely subscriber models for Aero:

1. Someone that lives in a "Dead Zone" caused by buildings or lives in a valley where the signal is blocked.

2. The other is someone that want's to be able to watch TV at different locations and doesn't want to have to lug around a portable TV.​



And to tell the truth I would guess that #2 is probably a higher percentage of their client base, a subscription allows you to rent an antenna and then stream content on the go for local broadcasts. That's kind of nice, I've go cable myself and unlimited data on my phone. I'll often stream CNN as background noise while working at my desk.



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I think the third likely one will be people who primarily watch network shows (or are comfortable with just having network shows) but would like DVR service for those shows.
 
I think the third likely one will be people who primarily watch network shows (or are comfortable with just having network shows) but would like DVR service for those shows.


Ya that would fit also. Our flat screen in the living room is a little older, I just installed a new 32" in the computer/treadmill room on a Rocketfish articulating arm that is awesome. Much better technology in terms of media selection, app support, and the "browser" is much more robust in terms of web content.



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Aero isn't providing access to the same content as cable providers, pretty much every cable/satellite provider that I know of provides access to CNN, a cable only network. That channel (and other cable only channels) are not available on Aero - you can only rent an antenna to receive over the air broadcasts.



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In the US (or perhaps it was just the state I was living in), local only channel packages were/are required to be offered by both cable and satellite providers at a super basic price for those who couldn't get regular antenna service. They may have changed, I've not been a cable or sat user in decades, but but in the day, for 9.95 a month, instead of the usual $50 a month cable usually was for the lower service with things like CNN, WGN, TNT, you could get the local channels, which amounted to like 5 of them.

What doesn't make sense to me, is that if all they're providing is what's over the airwaves, why don't these users just buy a digital antennae and some cable to carry it to the tv or the tuner dongle on the laptop. Costs about $20 total and then you're done, why pay a monthly fee at all? I guess maybe if you move around town alot during the day and can't be without your tv shows. I guess there is probably even a non-wired way to accomplish this these days, though mine is wired so I do only watch in the one place.
 
In the US (or perhaps it was just the state I was living in), local only channel packages were/are required to be offered by both cable and satellite providers at a super basic price for those who couldn't get regular antenna service. They may have changed, I've not been a cable or sat user in decades, but but in the day, for 9.95 a month, instead of the usual $50 a month cable usually was for the lower service with things like CNN, WGN, TNT, you could get the local channels, which amounted to like 5 of them.

I just checked our cable provider (Cox) and their "Starter" plan which is basically what you described it $24.99 per month.

For that you get local broadcast channels and some non-broadcast channels, but for that you don't even get CNN, TNT or Fox News. You do get WGN. To get those you have to go to the Economy package at $38.99 per month.

What doesn't make sense to me, is that if all they're providing is what's over the airwaves, why don't these users just buy a digital antennae...

Although a home might be within the broadcast area, the transmission of television signals through the air are done by the transmission of Radio Frequency waves which are subject to dead zones resulting in loss of signal. They can be cause by being inside (or on the wrong side of buildings), located in a valley, or on the wrong side of a hill. Think of RF waves as being like light, sometimes obstructions will cause a "shadow" and if you are in the shadow you don't get a signal.

and some cable to carry it to the tv or the tuner dongle on the laptop.

Same issue as above and turner dongles are even worse then an HD Blade antenna because they are smaller, the smaller antenna in the dongle isn't as sensitive as the larger blade antenna.

In addition you can stream to your phone or tablet which doesn't have full USB ports.


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I just checked our cable provider (Cox) and their "Starter" plan which is basically what you described it $24.99 per month.

For that you get local broadcast channels and some non-broadcast channels, but for that you don't even get CNN, TNT or Fox News. You do get WGN. To get those you have to go to the Economy package at $38.99 per month.



Although a home might be within the broadcast area, the transmission of television signals through the air are done by the transmission of Radio Frequency waves which are subject to dead zones resulting in loss of signal. They can be cause by being inside (or on the wrong side of buildings), located in a valley, or on the wrong side of a hill. Think of RF waves as being like light, sometimes obstructions will cause a "shadow" and if you are in the shadow you don't get a signal.



Same issue as above and turner dongles are even worse then an HD Blade antenna because they are smaller, the smaller antenna in the dongle isn't as sensitive as the larger blade antenna.

In addition you can stream to your phone or tablet which doesn't have full USB ports.


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I did catch the mobility issue. I know that for like 20 bucks you can get really impressive long distance hd antennas, as I had to have one in Boise, not because of distance, I was only 3 miles from downtown, but I was situated up against a foothill which blocked the Bogus Basin antennae. Mobility is a big issue with many though, I'm learning that. I'm old school. I want arse to be parked in my usual place with my usual glass of tea, and then watch my usual shows. Not one to try to watch on the go, but instead to pause or record and watch at my convenience.
 
What doesn't make sense to me, is that if all they're providing is what's over the airwaves, why don't these users just buy a digital antennae and some cable to carry it to the tv or the tuner dongle on the laptop.

It's attractive to me over going with an antenna for two reasons:

1. It would allow me to DVR my network shows. My wife and I have a number of network shows that we watch together, but are rarely able to watch as they're broadcast. This allows easy access to them whenever we get time to sit and watch shows. I'd need to either setup a small computer to do this at home (which takes a bit of upfront cash and some no how) or would need to buy a TIVO and pay a monthly fee for that. This also is wonderful during football season for replaying portions of the game.

2. It lets me watch TV on many devices. My wife doesn't like having a TV in the bedroom, but sometimes during football season we both like having the late game on as we're settling into bed. Aereo would let me setup my tablet and have it on, without a permanent TV in the bedroom. I like to have a TV on, even as background noise, while I cook in the kitche. Right now I use my tablet and netflix, as I can move it around as I move around so I can always see it if I want. This would give me the ability to do live or recorded television in that fashion.

Even then I'd be unsure if I'd go with this over cable. There's a number of shows/channels I'd rather not do without. However, I'd definitely be tempted. With Netflix routinely getting the cable shows I want added to their catalog, but just a bit late, that solves the issue of many of the cable shows I'd want.
 
I did catch the mobility issue. I know that for like 20 bucks you can get really impressive long distance hd antennas, as I had to have one in Boise, not because of distance, I was only 3 miles from downtown, but I was situated up against a foothill which blocked the Bogus Basin antennae. Mobility is a big issue with many though, I'm learning that. I'm old school. I want arse to be parked in my usual place with my usual glass of tea, and then watch my usual shows. Not one to try to watch on the go, but instead to pause or record and watch at my convenience.


That's cool. I'm in my 50's so I understand where you are coming from. Such a service wouldn't be that attractive to me as we get pretty good reception on an HD Blade antenna (we own one and tested it) although we still have cable.

I have unlimited data on my phone so when I'm not in meetings I'll prop up my phone an stream CNN (which I can do because I'm a cable subscriber) and will then use headphones. Mostly it's just background, some people listen to music - I listen to the news.


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In the US (or perhaps it was just the state I was living in), local only channel packages were/are required to be offered by both cable and satellite providers at a super basic price for those who couldn't get regular antenna service. They may have changed, I've not been a cable or sat user in decades, but but in the day, for 9.95 a month, instead of the usual $50 a month cable usually was for the lower service with things like CNN, WGN, TNT, you could get the local channels, which amounted to like 5 of them.

What doesn't make sense to me, is that if all they're providing is what's over the airwaves, why don't these users just buy a digital antennae and some cable to carry it to the tv or the tuner dongle on the laptop. Costs about $20 total and then you're done, why pay a monthly fee at all? I guess maybe if you move around town alot during the day and can't be without your tv shows. I guess there is probably even a non-wired way to accomplish this these days, though mine is wired so I do only watch in the one place.

Especially since digital television was implemented, many people assume that they will not be able to receive all the 'local' channels with just an antennae. That can be true in hilly areas, among highrise buildings and in rural areas, but in many cases people could receive those channels for free with an antennae. The irony is that cable providers compress the signals from HD broadcasters and those channels look noticeably worse with cable than they do over the air.

I switched to Netflix and over the air broadcasts (with a DVR) only and dropped cable and don't miss it at all. The only downside for me is that you have to wait a year for the most recent season of pay TV series to be available on Blu-Ray, DVD or on-demand. Those who need to keep up with the Joneses and sports fans probably do need cable or a dish service.

Here's an interesting fact that is greatly under-reported: You do not need a special antennae for digital television, any passive (non-powered) antennae will work just as well. (although antennae size and location do matter) In fact, tests have shown that passive antennae work noticeably better than powered antennae, because powered antennae generate signals that interfere with reception.
 
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Especially since digital television was implemented, many people assume that they will not be able to receive all the 'local' channels with just an antennae. That can be true in hilly areas, among highrise buildings and in rural areas, but in many cases people could receive those channels for free with an antennae. The irony is that cable providers compress the signals from HD broadcasters and those channels look noticeably worse with cable than they do over the air.

I switched to Netflix and over the air broadcasts (with a DVR) only and dropped cable and don't miss it at all. The only downside for me is that you have to wait a year for the most recent season of pay TV series to be available on Blu-Ray, DVD or on-demand. Those who need to keep up with the Joneses and sports fans probably do need cable or a dish service.

Here's an interesting fact that is greatly under-reported: You do not need a special antennae for digital television, any passive (non-powered) antennae will work just as well. (although antennae size and location do matter) In fact, tests have shown that passive antennae work noticeably better than powered antennae, because powered antennae generate signals that interfere with reception.

Yep, that's the kind of antenna I had. It was a new design from the old metal laddered arrow, it was a set of two small round, some sort of plastic, discs in a light metal caging. Worked great. Didn't get or need a booster, just had to choose the right passive antenna, some were for longer distance from the source, some less. I got one more powerful than I needed because of the foothill issue, and it worked fine. So though I was only 15 miles from the source, I got one that could handle 75 miles from the source, still a passive antenna.
 
As long as they're including the commercials in the rebroadcast, I don't see how it's costing the networks any money, so Aereo should be allowed to continue doing it for free.
 
Thirty years later, and they're still trying to sue the VCR.
 
Regardless, the advertiser is getting more eyes than it would if it weren't being offered by Aereo or other similar, so they are getting more for their buck. As for the networks, they've already been paid. I think what it might be, the more complex aspect, is that cable providers pay a rebroadcast fee, if Aereo doesn't have to, then cable/satellite providers will demand equal treatment and that could be a set back, though I never understood why cable companies should have had to pay those fees. Again, if the ads are intact, it should be able to be broadcast, rebroadcast, and rebroadcast again because originally it was free to anyone with an antenna that could receive it.

Cable providers put their commercials over the broadcast commercials, so how can the original content provider make any money?

I am not sure how it Works with this company but I doubt the commercials are being broadcast along with the content.
 
There are two two likely subscriber models for Aero:

1. Someone that lives in a "Dead Zone" caused by buildings or lives in a valley where the signal is blocked.

2. The other is someone that want's to be able to watch TV at different locations and doesn't want to have to lug around a portable TV.​



And to tell the truth I would guess that #2 is probably a higher percentage of their client base, a subscription allows you to rent an antenna and then stream content on the go for local broadcasts. That's kind of nice, I've go cable myself and unlimited data on my phone. I'll often stream CNN as background noise while working at my desk.



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I watched ABC news two nights ago, and they had a spot about AEREO.

What AEREO does is grab over the air digital broadcast, and puts it over the internet. So, they're technically not stealing cable or satellite broadcasts, just over the air casts.

That being said, it was reported by ABC that if AEREO wins in court, broadcasters said they might stop broadcasts over the air entirely.

But, IMO, that would be like shooting themselves in their own foot, advertisers might just jump their ship and stop their ads, the lack of revenue would put a big squeeze on broadcasters.

In my town, my local cable company, TWC carries local channels, which are from Milwaukee, and not Chicago.

When we had satellite television service, Dish and DirecTV charged people for local channels separately from their normal subscriber package. We dropped both because their rates were highly unreasonable.
 
Cable providers put their commercials over the broadcast commercials, so how can the original content provider make any money?

Actually, IIRC, there are various time slots assigned for national broadcasters that provide content for retransmission by cable companies. The average 1-hour show has only about 44-minutes of content, the rest of the time is commercials. So let's say there are 3-minutes of commercials at the top of the hour. The breakdown could be, for example, 2-minutes are provided by the broadcaster and 1 minute is made available to local commercial overlay.

I am not sure how it Works with this company but I doubt the commercials are being broadcast along with the content.

That would be incorrect. Aereo is making no changes to content as they are not selling content. They are renting hardware. What the over-the-air broadcaster is transmitting out their antenna is received by one of 10's of thousands of individual antenna's assigned to an individual subscriber (only one antenna at a time per subscriber) and the signal received passes unchanged to the consumer.



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I watched ABC news two nights ago, and they had a spot about AEREO.

What AEREO does is grab over the air digital broadcast, and puts it over the internet. So, they're technically not stealing cable or satellite broadcasts, just over the air casts.

That being said, it was reported by ABC that if AEREO wins in court, broadcasters said they might stop broadcasts over the air entirely.

But, IMO, that would be like shooting themselves in their own foot, advertisers might just jump their ship and stop their ads, the lack of revenue would put a big squeeze on broadcasters.

In my town, my local cable company, TWC carries local channels, which are from Milwaukee, and not Chicago.

When we had satellite television service, Dish and DirecTV charged people for local channels separately from their normal subscriber package. We dropped both because their rates were highly unreasonable.


From the viewpoint of market penetration for advertising, the Aereo business model actually INCREASES the viewership for advertising - which (from an advertising viewpoint) is a good thing.


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From the viewpoint of market penetration for advertising, the Aereo business model actually INCREASES the viewership for advertising - which (from an advertising viewpoint) is a good thing.


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How so, if broadcast companies decide not to put their signals out over the air in retaliation to what SCOTUS might rule in AEREO's favor?

Not everyone in the USA has internet service. In some areas, like rural settings, internet service is spotty, and sometimes not even available.
 
How so, if broadcast companies decide not to put their signals out over the air in retaliation to what SCOTUS might rule in AEREO's favor?

Not everyone in the USA has internet service. In some areas, like rural settings, internet service is spotty, and sometimes not even available.


I was talking about the way it is now, not if broadcasters end over-the-air transmissions.


As it is now you have to have a TV tuner to watch their programming in the room where you want to watch it. That means you have a TV. If you want you can buy a TV tuner dongle to take with you to plug into a laptop if you are out of the house or in a room with no TV. However TV tuner dongles are normally not as sensitive as HD Blade antennas. With Aereo you can watch broadcast television not only on your TV using a blade antenna, you can now view it via stream on your computer, tablet, laptop, or smartphone with a data connection.

So let's just say for discussion purposes that a person watches TV 3-hours per night. With Aereo and a tablet that individual can prop it up in the kitchens and have background TV on while making dinner, propped up on the treadmill in the bedroom while walking, can watch local channels on their smartphone while the kids are in dance class, catch-up on local weather while waiting at the dentists office, etc., etc.

Aereo actually INCREASES (under the current situation) the amount of advertising that a population in a local geographic area are exposed to because they are not tied to being in front of the TV as the only delivery method. The broadcasters signal will be able to reach anyone in the broadcasters FCC area that: (a) pays a minor fee for streaming, and (b) has access to the internet. Aereo also increases the advertising exposure because there are people that have difficulty receiving television signals even if they are inside the broadcast area because of building interference, being in a valley, or being on the wrong side of a hill - Aereo opens the broadcasters signal up to those individuals who can't receive the signal due to RF transmission limitations.

How so, if broadcast companies decide not to put their signals out over the air in retaliation to what SCOTUS might rule in AEREO's favor?

Not everyone in the USA has internet service. In some areas, like rural settings, internet service is spotty, and sometimes not even available.

The funny thing is that would be a classic example of cutting off your nose to spite your face. The number of subscribers that Aereo has is a pretty small sliver of the population as compared to the number of viewers that broadcasters reach. Aereo is filling a niche market, that that can't receive broadcast signals (see above) or those that want a degree or mobility.

Take the scale of possible viewers to Aereo subscribers and the percent of the subscribing population is pretty small, the broadcasters are basically saying "we're going to stop transmitting to millions because a a couple of hundreds of thousands (in a large market area) receive the same signal we transmit for free but instead get is streamed from an antenna they rent."

Well the will likely see their ad revenue plummet. Why would a company that wants to reach the broadcast market (those without cable or satellite service) for advertising when the broadcaster isn't broadcasting. Makes no sense.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danrayb...ce-in-nyc-only-amounts-to-300000-subscribers/

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Those Aereo people are b'stards, I tell ya! Here's an extremely informative vid of exactly how the system works...

Aereo TV
 
I was talking about the way it is now, not if broadcasters end over-the-air transmissions.


As it is now you have to have a TV tuner to watch their programming in the room where you want to watch it. That means you have a TV. If you want you can buy a TV tuner dongle to take with you to plug into a laptop if you are out of the house or in a room with no TV. However TV tuner dongles are normally not as sensitive as HD Blade antennas. With Aereo you can watch broadcast television not only on your TV using a blade antenna, you can now view it via stream on your computer, tablet, laptop, or smartphone with a data connection.

So let's just say for discussion purposes that a person watches TV 3-hours per night. With Aereo and a tablet that individual can prop it up in the kitchens and have background TV on while making dinner, propped up on the treadmill in the bedroom while walking, can watch local channels on their smartphone while the kids are in dance class, catch-up on local weather while waiting at the dentists office, etc., etc.

Aereo actually INCREASES (under the current situation) the amount of advertising that a population in a local geographic area are exposed to because they are not tied to being in front of the TV as the only delivery method. The broadcasters signal will be able to reach anyone in the broadcasters FCC area that: (a) pays a minor fee for streaming, and (b) has access to the internet. Aereo also increases the advertising exposure because there are people that have difficulty receiving television signals even if they are inside the broadcast area because of building interference, being in a valley, or being on the wrong side of a hill - Aereo opens the broadcasters signal up to those individuals who can't receive the signal due to RF transmission limitations.



The funny thing is that would be a classic example of cutting off your nose to spite your face. The number of subscribers that Aereo has is a pretty small sliver of the population as compared to the number of viewers that broadcasters reach. Aereo is filling a niche market, that that can't receive broadcast signals (see above) or those that want a degree or mobility.

Take the scale of possible viewers to Aereo subscribers and the percent of the subscribing population is pretty small, the broadcasters are basically saying "we're going to stop transmitting to millions because a a couple of hundreds of thousands (in a large market area) receive the same signal we transmit for free but instead get is streamed from an antenna they rent."

Well the will likely see their ad revenue plummet. Why would a company that wants to reach the broadcast market (those without cable or satellite service) for advertising when the broadcaster isn't broadcasting. Makes no sense.

Insiders Say Aereo's "Sold Out" Service In NYC Area Only Amounts To 300,000 Subscribers - Forbes

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I agree. Maybe the broadcasting networks were attempting to instill fear by making such a broad statement, all they'll do is lose.
 
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