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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Why should someone be given more tax exemptions for more dependents? that is a life choice. Why should others make up for it?

    No matter how we do tax law, someone will not be happy. Still, it should at least be based on wages. Not the number of dependents. I say a married man with two children should pay the same taxes as a man with no children or wife. That's just for starters.

    I agree with getting rid of EIC. However, I would phase it out over time for those already collecting it. If I had my choice, I would pick a date about one year from now and tell everyone, no more EIC for any dependents born after that date. Grandfather those who have already become dependent on it slowly reducing the rate to zero over maybe a 10 year period.

    I would prefer a consumption tax with all "necessities" at a zero tax. I would support a flat tax however with only a standard deduction that is equal to all wage earners.
    I could get on board with that...maybe make it five years instead of ten.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Who cares what's fair?
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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    "If the top 10% already pay 70% of all federal income taxes then there can be no claim that they do not pay at least their fair share"

    Is the above statement True or False?
    It is false because the definition of fair is strictly subjective. Many believe that a fair share will be when the wealthiest pay 100 % of all taxes.

    The idea of a fair share should never be permitted as an argument for taxation.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Who cares what's fair?
    Liberals. Of course, they have skewed visions of it.

    They also think that success should accompany a measure of shame.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The above statement is false.Even if everybody for example paid 10% of their income the top 10% would still pay a huge percentage of the taxes collected because they make a significantly way more money than your average American. I do support a fair tax, preferably in the form a national sales tax. So I am not some progressive who thinks the more you make the higher percentage you should be taxed.
    I think you voted wrong. Your first sentence is the opposite of the rest of your post. Reread the question carefully.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Taxes are a necessary evil. Taxation is legalized theft. The fairest tax is no tax at all. The second fairest tax is when everyone pays the same amount, not the same %, the same amount. Of course a fair tax is unworkable, so we have to do what's unfair. It's fairness vs. necessity. I support the extremely progressive tax code that the US has, but it's silly to pretend that it's fair.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    I think you voted wrong. Your first sentence is the opposite of the rest of your post. Reread the question carefully.
    I did read the question.The first part of my post does not contradict the rest.The fact is someone who makes a million dollars will pay more money in taxes than someone who makes $50,000, it doesn't matter if that person who is making a million dollars is paying %40 or %1 of their income in taxes.You have to look at the percentage rates.The poll question does not bring that into account.
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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    "If the top 10% already pay 70% of all federal income taxes then there can be no claim that they do not pay at least their fair share"

    Is the above statement True or False?
    Impossible to answer without a valid or, at least, reasonable definition of "fair share", so I didn't answer your poll.
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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I did read the question.The first part of my post does not contradict the rest.The fact is someone who makes a million dollars will pay more money in taxes than someone who makes $50,000, it doesn't matter if that person who is making a million dollars is paying %40 or %1 of their income in taxes.You have to look at the percentage rates.The poll question does not bring that into account.
    The pool also doesn't bring into account what different people have as deductions. Some of the "rich" will have so many write-offs, they pay 12% or less of their income. Others may have few write-off and pay 30% or more of their income.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Impossible to answer without a valid or, at least, reasonable definition of "fair share", so I didn't answer your poll.
    Yep. I didn't answer either.

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