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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    really? you are making over 2.5 million a year and have a net worth north of 50 million dollars?

    wow, then why do you call yourself a 99percenter?
    Im sorry but you dont make 2.5 mill a year. If you did you wouldn't be trolling messageboards 24-7. You are probably one of those 47%er's romney talks about. Therefore the taxes i pay subsidize your food stamps, medicare and obamaphone yet here you are bitching about taxes.
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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Im sorry but you dont make 2.5 mill a year. If you did you wouldn't be trolling messageboards 24-7. You are probably one of those 47%er's romney talks about. Therefore the taxes i pay subsidize your food stamps, medicare and obamaphone yet here you are bitching about taxes.
    what would you care to bet on that? I'd be happy to prove it if it meant you'd pay a stiff price

    I am retired, and I don't need to work. so what do you make a year? I guess you were just lying about what you claimed as to your income



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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its statist horsecrap. the biggest problem is those who want more and more spending don't get hit with tax increases to remind them how expensive the government they want.
    You failed to even make an attempt to address what I said "Also very true" about.

    Your second bit is incorrect. First off, it's entirely nonspecific and very generalizing. You are attempting to tarnish the stance that the government should increase it's spending on social welfare programs (and other progressive causes) by claiming that those who support such polices don't and will not feel the pinch of the taxes required to carry out such polices. Essentially trying to take the issue down from a simple ideological stance to a more petty self interest stance, which is in and of itself a logical fallacy because it avoids the heart of the argument. Secondly, quite a large number of higher earners support such polices, so it would appear that your claim is not only partially wrong, but mostly wrong. Not to mention that many liberals would agree to pay higher taxes for such polices, though they would of course support the cutting of the standard set of what they consider "wasteful" spending.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what would you care to bet on that? I'd be happy to prove it if it meant you'd pay a stiff price

    I am retired, and I don't need to work. so what do you make a year? I guess you were just lying about what you claimed as to your income
    It doesn't matter what i make because this is a messageboard and we have no way of verifying incomes. I just know that you dont make 2.5mill a year and probably never did in your life.
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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crossroads View Post
    You failed to even make an attempt to address what I said "Also very true" about.

    Your second bit is incorrect. First off, it's entirely nonspecific and very generalizing. You are attempting to tarnish the stance that the government should increase it's spending on social welfare programs (and other progressive causes) by claiming that those who support such polices don't and will not feel the pinch of the taxes required to carry out such polices. Essentially trying to take the issue down from a simple ideological stance to a more petty self interest stance, which is in and of itself a logical fallacy because it avoids the heart of the argument. Secondly, quite a large number of higher earners support such polices, so it would appear that your claim is not only partially wrong, but mostly wrong. Not to mention that many liberals would agree to pay higher taxes for such polices, though they would of course support the cutting of the standard set of what they consider "wasteful" spending.
    opinion noted and rejected as contrary to known reality. I doubt many liberals would be willing to pay more unless they thought they'd get more from the government. Higher taxes is something rich dems see as a cost of becoming more powerful

    when they won't get any benefit from it they won't support it. HOW MANY rich liberals actually give the IRS more than they have to



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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    We dont have a progressive tax. We have a regressive tax. In fact mitt romney pays less of his income taxes than a truck driver making 50k a year and lives by himself. We have have corporations like GE that not only not pay any taxes but get money back from the govt.
    We have a progressive tax system for many, and a regressive tax system for others. While I don't feel like looking up the exact numbers right now (I might if you really want me to) plenty of well off and "rich" individuals and families pay their full tax percentage, or just about.

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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    opinion noted and rejected as contrary to known reality. I doubt many liberals would be willing to pay more unless they thought they'd get more from the government. Higher taxes is something rich dems see as a cost of becoming more powerful

    when they won't get any benefit from it they won't support it. HOW MANY rich liberals actually give the IRS more than they have to
    Im sorry but the govt isnt a charity where you give how much you want. If they ask for it the rich liberals have no problem giving it.
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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    It doesn't matter what i make because this is a messageboard and we have no way of verifying incomes. I just know that you dont make 2.5mill a year and probably never did in your life.
    Oh I can prove it, you just have to make it worth my while. There are are at least a few people on this board who know my name and know I am truthful

    its stupid to make challenges on a board when someone might actually call your bluff



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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Im sorry but the govt isnt a charity where you give how much you want. If they ask for it the rich liberals have no problem giving it.
    you are lying again. Bill Maher was complaining about the Bush tax cuts and someone told him he could give more and he said "it wouldn't help"

    rich liberals will demand higher taxes when it sucks in people like you to support them. But oftentimes they call for higher taxes on OTHER rich people. LIke Warren BullFett who clamors for higher death taxes but won't give the government a single penny when he dies. Or the scummy kennedys-big fans of the death tax but the kennedy wealth is safe in a trust set up in FIJI



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    Re: Is This Statement True Of Federal Income Taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh I can prove it, you just have to make it worth my while. There are are at least a few people on this board who know my name and know I am truthful

    its stupid to make challenges on a board when someone might actually call your bluff
    They only way you can prove it is by showing your tax returns which is not a smart move or verifiable because again this is a messageboard. Why is it a big deal that i don't believe you are wealthy? Just accept it and move on.
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