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Which would you rather have?

Which would you rather have?


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Can you give an example? Here is an example of the opposite of what you just said.

Ok maybe add is the more appropriate word over change. But, sure. Here's the OP:
A) A $30,000 income with a $0.00 tax burden?
or
B) A $250,000 income with a $125,000 tax burden?
Why do you think your answer is the most advantageous for you?

No details. Then you throw in this little tidbit on page 8:
I guess I could have modified it a little bit.
A) $30,000 income with $0.00 tax burden
or
B) $250,000 income with $125,000 tax burden and be pissed about it.

So modifications begins. On page 9 you throw in a lot more detail:
In scenario A the job is wonderful, easy, in the best location, working with the best people imaginable with no qualifications.
In scenario B the job is horrible, difficult, in the worst place, working with a**holes and jerks with no qualifications.
The first job is great. The second job sucks.

Page 10 brings us:
With the first one, imagine the best possible answers to the questions. With the second one, imagine the worst possible answers to your questions.

And finally the details you gave me:
Is the higher paying job something that I might object to?
No
maquiscat said:
Do I have an opportunity to increase my income?
No
maquiscat said:
Am I being given a special exemption to the tax/the same rate as everyone else, or is there a system that varies with income?
Your tax rate is 0.00% in scenario A. Your tax rate is 50.00% in scenario B. That was pretty clear.

So there you go. You have been constantly altering/adding as we go along in this thread.
 
Two can play this game.

Which would you rather have?

A) A $30,000 income with a $0.00 tax burden?

or

B) A $4,000,000 income with a $3,000,000 tax burden?

Why do you think your answer is the most advantageous for you?

He already played that card earlier.
 
Two can play this game.

Which would you rather have?

A) A $30,000 income with a $0.00 tax burden?

or

B) A $4,000,000 income with a $3,000,000 tax burden?

Why do you think your answer is the most advantageous for you?

I would choose option B because it would leave me with $1,000,000 left over to use on anything that I wanted to buy. With option A, I would only have $30,000 left to use on anything that I wanted to buy.
 
You have been constantly altering/adding as we go along in this thread.

You are free to take that into consideration when voting in this poll.

Just remember a simple 2nd grade math reality. $30,000 is less than $125,000. This reality is more important than all the gobble de guck that you are complaining about. Are you going to vote in this poll? If not, you are getting an F in this class.
 
I don't think that tax burden is much of a worry to people, so long as they end up with more money after it all.

What people dislike is additional paperwork involved, and perhaps especially, having to work harder.
 
it's still unjust and unfair for the government to take 50% of that.

But you can never control the actions of others. You have to do what is in your best interest. There is no reason to sabotage yourself because others are being unfair. Take the $125,000 and run. Laugh really hard at Grand Mal for only getting $30,000. You have $95,000 more than he does. If he needs your help you might want to give him a few bucks but that depends on how big of a scum bag you are. If you are a scum bag just let him starve while you spit on him for choosing to make a lower amount of money.

If you are a good person just give him a few dollars. You probably won't miss it.
 
I don't think that tax burden is much of a worry to people, so long as they end up with more money after it all.

If you look at the results from this poll it looks like you are probably right.
 
You are free to take that into consideration when voting in this poll.

Just remember a simple 2nd grade math reality. $30,000 is less than $125,000. This reality is more important than all the gobble de guck that you are complaining about. Are you going to vote in this poll? If not, you are getting an F in this class.

There is no reality in this poll. Hence why I will not be making a vote. I would not take any job where I don't have a chance of increasing my income or moving up.
 
There is no reality in this poll. Hence why I will not be making a vote. I would not take any job where I don't have a chance of increasing my income or moving up.

It isn't supposed to represent reality. The poll was designed to find out if there is any such thing as a person who despises graduated income taxes on principle alone. There isn't.

It just proves that people who complain about the graduated income tax are just liars who like money so much that they want more just because.

It isn't the fact that they hate the graduated income tax. It's just the fact that they want more money. They advocate lower taxes because they want more money not because they want our country to survive or they want our country stronger.

Would you hate a**holes who preached with such fiery hyprocracy as that?

There is absolutely no such thing as a human being who hates the graduated income tax. There just isn't.
 
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I would choose option B because it would leave me with $1,000,000 left over to use on anything that I wanted to buy. With option A, I would only have $30,000 left to use on anything that I wanted to buy.

SO you wouldn't mind 3/4 of your labor and time doing that labor going to someone who didn't earn it?
 
SO you wouldn't mind 3/4 of your labor and time doing that labor going to someone who didn't earn it?
I wouldn't like it. But unless the job required was extremely stressful and unrewarding, I'd take it because in the end I keep more money.
 
It isn't supposed to represent reality. The poll was designed to find out if there is any such thing as a person who despises graduated income taxes on principle alone. There isn't.

It just proves that people who complain about the graduated income tax are just liars who like money so much that they want more just because.

It isn't the fact that they hate the graduated income tax. It's just the fact that they want more money. They advocate lower taxes because they want more money not because they want our country to survive or they want our country stronger.

Would you hate a**holes who preached with such fiery hyprocracy as that?

There is absolutely no such thing as a human being who hates the graduated income tax. There just isn't.

Then you are the one with an "F". You presented no such thing. You said yourself that there was no chance of increasing my income. Therefore there is no graduated income tax. At best you have an either/or tax along side an either/or pay. As to advocating lower taxes, more taxes in the people's pockets means more money flowing through the economy growing it. I rather like the idea of everyone willing to better themselves able to do better. Now personally, I'm not against a graduated income tax. I'm against an income tax period. I would much rather see a system like the Fair Tax.
 

ah yes...more creative quote editing to change context. It doesn't matter whether it's graduated or universal single rate, I'm against income tax period. But of the two, the universal single rate is the better of the two.
 
Here is the full quote.

Then you are the one with an "F". You presented no such thing. You said yourself that there was no chance of increasing my income. Therefore there is no graduated income tax. At best you have an either/or tax along side an either/or pay. As to advocating lower taxes, more taxes in the people's pockets means more money flowing through the economy growing it. I rather like the idea of everyone willing to better themselves able to do better. Now personally, I'm not against a graduated income tax. I'm against an income tax period. I would much rather see a system like the Fair Tax.
 
I would much rather see a system like the Fair Tax.

Some people prefer dry weather. That doesn't mean you shouldn't wear a rain coat whenever it rains.

Our income tax just is. Would you rather have more money before taxes, more money after taxes or a combination of the two?

It is better to choose the more advantageous option because there are a lot of factors that an individual has no control over. Does that make any sense whatsoever?

It's better to have more money that less. F*** the tax man. I have no control over him.
 
It isn't supposed to represent reality. The poll was designed to find out if there is any such thing as a person who despises graduated income taxes on principle alone. There isn't.

It just proves that people who complain about the graduated income tax are just liars who like money so much that they want more just because.

It isn't the fact that they hate the graduated income tax. It's just the fact that they want more money. They advocate lower taxes because they want more money not because they want our country to survive or they want our country stronger.

Would you hate a**holes who preached with such fiery hyprocracy as that?

There is absolutely no such thing as a human being who hates the graduated income tax. There just isn't.

this is even more a stupid comment than your stupid poll
 
I don't hate you for that

I guess I don't hate other people either. It's just very frustrating when people claim that they are against a government policy because it is a bad policy yet what they are really against is their own losses.

That kind of hypocracy is very aggravating. If people hated income taxes really really bad, they would reduce their income. That is why I created this poll. I created this poll to offer an outlet to all the helpless victims that pay too much in income taxes. I gave them an opportunity to pretend for a second that they are sticking it to the government by paying no income taxes yet nobody is taking me up on the offer.

It is very evident that people who complain about taxes are completely dishonest about their attitude toward taxes. It is their attitude towards money which has nothing to do with government policies or the decisions of the government to operate the country.

It's just so gross to see how horrible these people are. I wanted to sift them out and bring them to the light.

It is the people who ran their mouth in this thread but refused to vote. That is where all the liars are at. They don't really hate taxes as much as they pretend.

These type of people are completely disgusting and filthy. It is fun to wash away their filth with this poll.
 
If people hated income taxes really really bad, they would reduce their income.

This is your premise?!?!?!? ROFLMFAO Wow....just....wow. There simply are not words to describe.

That is why I created this poll. I created this poll to offer an outlet to all the helpless victims that pay too much in income taxes. I gave them an opportunity to pretend for a second that they are sticking it to the government by paying no income taxes yet nobody is taking me up on the offer.

It is very evident that people who complain about taxes are completely dishonest about their attitude toward taxes. It is their attitude towards money which has nothing to do with government policies or the decisions of the government to operate the country.

It's just so gross to see how horrible these people are. I wanted to sift them out and bring them to the light.

It is the people who ran their mouth in this thread but refused to vote. That is where all the liars are at. They don't really hate taxes as much as they pretend.

These type of people are completely disgusting and filthy. It is fun to wash away their filth with this poll.

Government is a necessity for any group greater than 1. Plain and simple. You can call it whatever you wish but it is still there. Committee, Council, Board, Manager, Father (or Mother as the case may be). It can be (but is not limited to) a dictatorship, pure democracy, or rule of law, or some combination thereof. The larger the group the more complex the governing entity becomes. At some point, which can vary a bit, the governing body requires its own funding in order to carry out its purposes, whatever they may be depending upon the government type. Taxes are one method by which a governing body obtains said funds. How much per subject/citizen/whatever and by what method can vary and the validity of either of those two factors is subjective in nature.

I won't lie and say that I wouldn't love to be able to have a government that can provide me the protections, freedoms, and infrastructure without having to pay any taxes whatsoever. But that simply won't happen. Thus I do indeed see the necessity of each person having to pay taxes. What I don't agree with is certain methods of obtaining said taxes. A progressive income tax, especially one like we have currently in the US, is one that I disagree with on principle. First off, each person should have a stake in the game. No free rides. If you are a citizen, then you pay some taxes period, even if it is not as much as those who make more. Secondly, one should not be taxed upon the basic necessities of life. Now I know that seems contradictory to the first point, but there it is. It is a principle that I believe that all tax systems should have as a basic part. Third, should you end up at a point where you paid too much tax, then you only get back what you put in. Taxes are not an investment that you make with the government. They are the fee that you pay for the services and infrastructure of government. Finally, if you want people to be successful, then you do not punish success. This last one is a principle that is violated not only by the current income tax system but by many of our "social safety net" systems.

Yeah, if you really want to run complicated circles and such you can say that my interest is driven by wanting more money. I want success to be rewarded, so that my success can be rewarded. I want other people's success to be rewarded so that they can do better and grow the economy, thus spending more money in my business so that I can have more money (as either owner or as an employee). But in the end, I still want to see others able to succeed and not be punished for it.

I think that you are being very dishonest, even to yourself, as to the motivations of people who do not want a graduated income tax system. That is not to say that there are not those who indeed are only looking at their bottom line. But by far, that is not the only view or reasoning out there. To believe otherwise is foolish and blind.
 
I chose 30k. 250k requires way too many qualifications and way too much work. Paying half my income in taxes, with that workload, is nonsense.
 
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