View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?

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  • A) $30,000 income with $0.00 tax burden.

    3 8.11%
  • B) $250,000 income with $125,000 tax burden.

    34 91.89%
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    So far there are 18 people who have made comments but failed to vote:

    Beaudreaux
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    FederalRepublic
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    X Factor

    I hope that they will vote really soon. Most people are voting for Option B. We need more A votes so that it isn't a complete landslide. We need some Libertarians to vote in this.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    You are hopelessly lost in a world of envy and disconnected logic. Let me help you out. Very few people hate taxes as much as you think they pretend to and very few people pretend to hate taxes. People do hate the IRS. They hate the tax code ("code" being the operative word). They hate dishonest politicians. They hate that their earnings are being spent to sell and prop up other bad policies that add more code to the code. There are plenty of things related to taxes that people like me hate. The tax itself isn't it.

    In short, the premise is wrong, the poll is meaningless, and everything the thread accomplished is a mirage.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the poll is not a fair poll, a blind man can see from 10 blocks, under A you going to have 30,000 and B your going to have 125,000....anyone would working in the own self interest would want the latter.
    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'd vote option B. I'd rather have more money. Although it's still unjust and unfair for the government to take 50% of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Outstanding post!!!

    God, I love reading your posts, especially those like this one, that go straight to the heart of the issue without any fluff or pretense.

    Well done. Again.
    This is a reminder to some of you that have not voted in this poll. The poll is closing soon.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    SO you wouldn't mind 3/4 of your labor and time doing that labor going to someone who didn't earn it?
    Yes. I would hate it passionately. Considering the choices given. I would have to go with Option B. Btw: You haven't voted in this poll and it is about to close.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And you cannot see the difference between $30,000 and $125,000?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    What about hrs worked, expenses/COL etc. Also, you may do fine with 30 in some places, while 125 don't get you very far in others. Paying a hefty mortgage or living in a trailer park, kids going to college, combined income or personal income?
    Too many questions need to be answered first.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You didn't.
    Kobie, Lovebug and Lursa; Have you voted yet? This poll is closing soon.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Kobie, Lovebug and Lursa; Have you voted yet? This poll is closing soon.
    Nope, and I'm not going to.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Here's another question. You're making the $30,000 and even though you didn't pay taxes you still get a refund. Of course that has to come from somewhere so it comes from the people paying 30, 40 even 50 percent of their income in paying takes. Do you

    a) resent and vilify them and say how unfair it is that they make more

    Or

    B) happily spend the money and maybe even work to position yourself to where you to could make a higher income
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    I don't vote in poison pill polls but B would make sense mathematically.
    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You seem to be in the minority.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I would choose:

    C) A $250,000 income with a 0.00 tax burden
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Duh, I misplaced my calculator.
    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Don't particularly like Rush, but please keep your delusions that everyone who disagree with a progressive income tax system and a broken social safety net system is a Rush thrall.

    No I don't remember specifically saying anything about the income tax system being a disincentive towards people working. I believe I mentioned that it takes money away from being used in the economy to better effect than the government can use it for. I also note that we do need a tax system of some sort as we do have to provide for infrastructure. Any debate as to what is legitimate infrastructure and such is the subject of another thread. I know I have mentioned that I believe that the Fair Tax bill is the better tax system than a progressive tax system.

    As to our social net systems, I have never said that people turn down good jobs to stay on these programs, but when getting an entry level job can cost you your welfare or SNAP benifits, leaving you at less overall income than remaining unemployed, then the system is broken. My sister is on disability. She's working hard on getting a Masters so that she can get off and get a job that pays enough to be over what she gets for disability. But she has to watch what income she gets because if she gets so much then they take away the disability and she will actually be at less than the disability itself. I don't disagree with the intended purpose of the programs in and of themselves, although I do contend that private charities could do the job more efficiently and better weed out those who just want to skate on other people's dime. I object to the way that the programs are run that end up leaving people trapped in these programs for multiple generations.
    Are you guys doing pretty good tonight? This poll is going to close soon and I wanted to give you a chance to vote.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Nope, and I'm not going to.
    Do you know the consequences of your non-action?

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Do you know the consequences of your non-action?
    There aren't any.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    There aren't any.
    In 42 minutes it will be all over. That is when I will begin compiling my final list of people who commented in this thread but failed to vote. They will all get a grade of F but that is not all. I will always be guessing at what their answer would have been if they would have voted. You are not as safe as you might think. Do you really want an F? Do you really want me to proxy vote on your behalf? It isn't exactly fair.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    I can't tell if this is serious or not.. Would anyone really settle for $95,000 less dollars AFTER TAXES? I would still rather have 250K with 125K after taxes than 125K with no taxes, because the first gives self satisfaction of helping create a better society than the latter does.

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