View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?

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  • A) $30,000 income with $0.00 tax burden.

    3 8.11%
  • B) $250,000 income with $125,000 tax burden.

    34 91.89%
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    You were saying that the income tax system disincentivizes people to work. You were saying that social safety nets discourage people from working. It's a nice to listen to Rush Limbaugh every once in a while but you still have to use your brain.

    People aren't turning down good paying jobs to stay on food stamps. That's ridiculous. People aren't refusing to work because AFDC checks are extremely lucrative.

    The income tax system that we currently use in 2014 was built while considering that very thing. It has been fixed. There is no longer people with higher gross pay earning lower net pay. Those problems have been fixed but if you enjoy living in the past because it is fun to complain about imaginary things, then carry on. I'll try not to stop you but I will make fun of you.
    Don't particularly like Rush, but please keep your delusions that everyone who disagree with a progressive income tax system and a broken social safety net system is a Rush thrall.

    No I don't remember specifically saying anything about the income tax system being a disincentive towards people working. I believe I mentioned that it takes money away from being used in the economy to better effect than the government can use it for. I also note that we do need a tax system of some sort as we do have to provide for infrastructure. Any debate as to what is legitimate infrastructure and such is the subject of another thread. I know I have mentioned that I believe that the Fair Tax bill is the better tax system than a progressive tax system.

    As to our social net systems, I have never said that people turn down good jobs to stay on these programs, but when getting an entry level job can cost you your welfare or SNAP benifits, leaving you at less overall income than remaining unemployed, then the system is broken. My sister is on disability. She's working hard on getting a Masters so that she can get off and get a job that pays enough to be over what she gets for disability. But she has to watch what income she gets because if she gets so much then they take away the disability and she will actually be at less than the disability itself. I don't disagree with the intended purpose of the programs in and of themselves, although I do contend that private charities could do the job more efficiently and better weed out those who just want to skate on other people's dime. I object to the way that the programs are run that end up leaving people trapped in these programs for multiple generations.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    when getting an entry level job can cost you your welfare or SNAP benifits, leaving you at less overall income than remaining unemployed, then the system is broken.
    Is this your favorite fairy tale?

    I agree with your statement 100% but that isn't how it works at all.
    Last edited by vasuderatorrent; 04-25-14 at 09:32 PM.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I have read people claim that poor people have it made because of all of the government benefits that they receive.

    This thread proves that claim to be an extreme exaggeration.
    And you cannot see the difference between $30,000 and $125,000?
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And you cannot see the difference between $30,000 and $125,000?
    Yes. I voted B.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    If I can have 125k to myself and pay 125k to help fund stuff like schools, roads, and other infrastructure then I'd be happy to do it. 30k income isn't very much these days.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    If I can have 125k to myself and pay 125k to help fund stuff like schools, roads, and other infrastructure then I'd be happy to do it. 30k income isn't very much these days.
    I'd be happy with 30k, I don't even make that.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    I'd be happy with 30k, I don't even make that.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You can't make that conclusion. Your "poll" was worded in a way that the situation was in a vacuum, with no difference in difficulty or amount of work.
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    I'm not aware that I said it was.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    This is a reminder to all who have not voted in this poll. This poll is closing very soon.
    Its still a really really STUPID poll



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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its still a really really STUPID poll
    Then give a really stupid answer. Remember if you don't answer I will guess at what you would have chosen and I will give you an F.

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