View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?

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  • A) $30,000 income with $0.00 tax burden.

    3 8.11%
  • B) $250,000 income with $125,000 tax burden.

    34 91.89%
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're ignoring the work required. Everyone making 30k is capable of making six figures, but they have chosen otherwise. For me, it's simply not worth it. I'm ok with 30k, I'm not ok with the high-speed no-drag 60+ hours a week, life poured into work lifestyle needed to make six figures.

    Why can't people be honest and admit that their income is a result of choices they've made? Anyone making 30k and claiming they'd rather make six figures is lying. They could, they've chosen not to.
    I'd rather make six figures.


    But I'm not at all sure how much more work I would be willing to do in order to reach that point. Some?
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'd rather make six figures.


    But I'm not at all sure how much more work I would be willing to do in order to reach that point. Some?

    Six figures means 60+ hours a week, always on call (no free evenings), pouring oneself entirely into work. Anyone who can make 30k (around 3k/month), can make 100k. All it takes is extreme discipline and dedication.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Six figures means 60+ hours a week, always on call (no free evenings), pouring oneself entirely into work. Anyone who can make 30k (around 3k/month), can make 100k. All it takes is extreme discipline and dedication.
    Neither of which I posses at this time.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Neither of which I posses at this time.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Nope. It doesn't.
    Expand upon this please because even in the quote alone there are a couple of subjects and your response does not clearly show which one it is addressing.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So you would rather make 30K rather then 125K.

    Noted.
    Did you even read what he said? He noted that the 125K job looked to be too much work for him. There is nothing wrong with saying that you'll take a lower paying job because the higher paying one would put you in a early grave.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Pretty selfish too, if you have a family.
    Hmmm...I could work 40 hours a week making my 30K and see my family a lot, or I can work 100+ hours a week for 125K and barely see my family. So tell me again which is the more selfish towards their family?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Prove your claim. Offer someone who makes $30,000 a job making $250,000. Then let us know what happens.
    Ok...Hey Joe! Quit that 30K/yr job and come work for me as a professional rapist. I'll pay you 250K/yr!

    Or drug runner or abortion clinic technician (for an anti-abortionist). It doesn't really matter, there are simply some jobs that some people won't do no matter how much you pay them. Simply throwing out two numbers does nothing to reveal the true answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Taxes are irrelevant.

    The question is would you rather live well on 125K take home or barely scrape by on 30K.

    To want to barely scrape by is weird.
    Pay attention. This whole thread has been about graduated income tax. Well income taxes anyway. Although poorly presented it's right there in the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    No, that was not the question....that is how you interpreted the question.

    And considering over 90% voted 2), I would say you interpreted it incorrectly or, at least, in a weird way.


    I am not going around and around on this with you.

    Most people would rather take home 125K rather then 30K...the poll proves it.

    You disagree...fine.


    Good day.
    As a general rule, yeah I would rather take home 125K over 30K, but not under all circumstances. It's one of the reasons so many questions were asked. I'd rather start at 30K and no income tax and keep the no income tax status as I work my way up to 125K, than start straight at the 125K after a 50% tax burden. If the hours are too long, I wouldn't take the 125K because what you be the point of making all that money for my family if I wasn't there to enjoy it with them?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    You have no way of knowing what those people think...none.
    You can guess, hope, prey...but you cannot know.
    We are done here.
    Good day.
    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Is this the 3rd time you said that or the 4th?
    I was kind of wondering that as well. Some people are just masochists I guess.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Expand upon this please because even in the quote alone there are a couple of subjects and your response does not clearly show which one it is addressing.



    Did you even read what he said? He noted that the 125K job looked to be too much work for him. There is nothing wrong with saying that you'll take a lower paying job because the higher paying one would put you in a early grave.



    Hmmm...I could work 40 hours a week making my 30K and see my family a lot, or I can work 100+ hours a week for 125K and barely see my family. So tell me again which is the more selfish towards their family?



    Ok...Hey Joe! Quit that 30K/yr job and come work for me as a professional rapist. I'll pay you 250K/yr!

    Or drug runner or abortion clinic technician (for an anti-abortionist). It doesn't really matter, there are simply some jobs that some people won't do no matter how much you pay them. Simply throwing out two numbers does nothing to reveal the true answer.



    Pay attention. This whole thread has been about graduated income tax. Well income taxes anyway. Although poorly presented it's right there in the OP.



    As a general rule, yeah I would rather take home 125K over 30K, but not under all circumstances. It's one of the reasons so many questions were asked. I'd rather start at 30K and no income tax and keep the no income tax status as I work my way up to 125K, than start straight at the 125K after a 50% tax burden. If the hours are too long, I wouldn't take the 125K because what you be the point of making all that money for my family if I wasn't there to enjoy it with them?




    I was kind of wondering that as well. Some people are just masochists I guess.
    I don't do large multi-quote post replies...especially on subjects I really don't care that much about.

    I stand by what I typed...you don't like it; (as Sebastian Vettel said in China yesterday) tough...no offense intended.

    Good day.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I don't do large multi-quote post replies...especially on subjects I really don't care that much about.
    You just did.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I don't do large multi-quote post replies...especially on subjects I really don't care that much about.

    I stand by what I typed...you don't like it; (as Sebastian Vettel said in China yesterday) tough...no offense intended.

    Good day.
    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    You just did.
    He just doesn't want to take the time to weed through to figure out which responses are to him and defend them. He didn't pay attention to parts of the thread, or doesn't want to admit to not having actually read some posts and is now covering up.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    A person satisfied with 30,000 is a person with no ambition. And usually those with no ambition are more than willing to make the other guy pick up the tab for the things he benefits from.
    I get by on less than 30K, and work damned hard doing it. If by 'ambition' you mean determination to aquire, you're right but my ambition has always been self-sufficiency and I'm close, very close.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Expand upon this please because even in the quote alone there are a couple of subjects and your response does not clearly show which one it is addressing.
    You were saying that the income tax system disincentivizes people to work. You were saying that social safety nets discourage people from working. It's a nice to listen to Rush Limbaugh every once in a while but you still have to use your brain.

    People aren't turning down good paying jobs to stay on food stamps. That's ridiculous. People aren't refusing to work because AFDC checks are extremely lucrative.

    The income tax system that we currently use in 2014 was built while considering that very thing. It has been fixed. There is no longer people with higher gross pay earning lower net pay. Those problems have been fixed but if you enjoy living in the past because it is fun to complain about imaginary things, then carry on. I'll try not to stop you but I will make fun of you.

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