View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?

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  • A) $30,000 income with $0.00 tax burden.

    3 8.11%
  • B) $250,000 income with $125,000 tax burden.

    34 91.89%
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't hate you for that
    I guess I don't hate other people either. It's just very frustrating when people claim that they are against a government policy because it is a bad policy yet what they are really against is their own losses.

    That kind of hypocracy is very aggravating. If people hated income taxes really really bad, they would reduce their income. That is why I created this poll. I created this poll to offer an outlet to all the helpless victims that pay too much in income taxes. I gave them an opportunity to pretend for a second that they are sticking it to the government by paying no income taxes yet nobody is taking me up on the offer.

    It is very evident that people who complain about taxes are completely dishonest about their attitude toward taxes. It is their attitude towards money which has nothing to do with government policies or the decisions of the government to operate the country.

    It's just so gross to see how horrible these people are. I wanted to sift them out and bring them to the light.

    It is the people who ran their mouth in this thread but refused to vote. That is where all the liars are at. They don't really hate taxes as much as they pretend.

    These type of people are completely disgusting and filthy. It is fun to wash away their filth with this poll.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    If people hated income taxes really really bad, they would reduce their income.
    This is your premise?!?!?!? ROFLMFAO Wow....just....wow. There simply are not words to describe.

    That is why I created this poll. I created this poll to offer an outlet to all the helpless victims that pay too much in income taxes. I gave them an opportunity to pretend for a second that they are sticking it to the government by paying no income taxes yet nobody is taking me up on the offer.

    It is very evident that people who complain about taxes are completely dishonest about their attitude toward taxes. It is their attitude towards money which has nothing to do with government policies or the decisions of the government to operate the country.

    It's just so gross to see how horrible these people are. I wanted to sift them out and bring them to the light.

    It is the people who ran their mouth in this thread but refused to vote. That is where all the liars are at. They don't really hate taxes as much as they pretend.

    These type of people are completely disgusting and filthy. It is fun to wash away their filth with this poll.
    Government is a necessity for any group greater than 1. Plain and simple. You can call it whatever you wish but it is still there. Committee, Council, Board, Manager, Father (or Mother as the case may be). It can be (but is not limited to) a dictatorship, pure democracy, or rule of law, or some combination thereof. The larger the group the more complex the governing entity becomes. At some point, which can vary a bit, the governing body requires its own funding in order to carry out its purposes, whatever they may be depending upon the government type. Taxes are one method by which a governing body obtains said funds. How much per subject/citizen/whatever and by what method can vary and the validity of either of those two factors is subjective in nature.

    I won't lie and say that I wouldn't love to be able to have a government that can provide me the protections, freedoms, and infrastructure without having to pay any taxes whatsoever. But that simply won't happen. Thus I do indeed see the necessity of each person having to pay taxes. What I don't agree with is certain methods of obtaining said taxes. A progressive income tax, especially one like we have currently in the US, is one that I disagree with on principle. First off, each person should have a stake in the game. No free rides. If you are a citizen, then you pay some taxes period, even if it is not as much as those who make more. Secondly, one should not be taxed upon the basic necessities of life. Now I know that seems contradictory to the first point, but there it is. It is a principle that I believe that all tax systems should have as a basic part. Third, should you end up at a point where you paid too much tax, then you only get back what you put in. Taxes are not an investment that you make with the government. They are the fee that you pay for the services and infrastructure of government. Finally, if you want people to be successful, then you do not punish success. This last one is a principle that is violated not only by the current income tax system but by many of our "social safety net" systems.

    Yeah, if you really want to run complicated circles and such you can say that my interest is driven by wanting more money. I want success to be rewarded, so that my success can be rewarded. I want other people's success to be rewarded so that they can do better and grow the economy, thus spending more money in my business so that I can have more money (as either owner or as an employee). But in the end, I still want to see others able to succeed and not be punished for it.

    I think that you are being very dishonest, even to yourself, as to the motivations of people who do not want a graduated income tax system. That is not to say that there are not those who indeed are only looking at their bottom line. But by far, that is not the only view or reasoning out there. To believe otherwise is foolish and blind.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    SO you wouldn't mind 3/4 of your labor and time doing that labor going to someone who didn't earn it?
    It's still better than 30k.
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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    That was the reason I voted B. I prefer more money to less money.
    So you make $250k then?

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    I chose 30k. 250k requires way too many qualifications and way too much work. Paying half my income in taxes, with that workload, is nonsense.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I guess I don't hate other people either. It's just very frustrating when people claim that they are against a government policy because it is a bad policy yet what they are really against is their own losses.
    Except they really are against the policy because it's bad policy. It's bad policy because it causes people to lose what they earn.

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    That kind of hypocracy is very aggravating. If people hated income taxes really really bad, they would reduce their income. That is why I created this poll. I created this poll to offer an outlet to all the helpless victims that pay too much in income taxes. I gave them an opportunity to pretend for a second that they are sticking it to the government by paying no income taxes yet nobody is taking me up on the offer.

    It is very evident that people who complain about taxes are completely dishonest about their attitude toward taxes. It is their attitude towards money which has nothing to do with government policies or the decisions of the government to operate the country.

    It's just so gross to see how horrible these people are. I wanted to sift them out and bring them to the light.

    It is the people who ran their mouth in this thread but refused to vote. That is where all the liars are at. They don't really hate taxes as much as they pretend.

    These type of people are completely disgusting and filthy. It is fun to wash away their filth with this poll.
    You are hopelessly lost in a world of envy and disconnected logic. Let me help you out. Very few people hate taxes as much as you think they pretend to and very few people pretend to hate taxes. People do hate the IRS. They hate the tax code ("code" being the operative word). They hate dishonest politicians. They hate that their earnings are being spent to sell and prop up other bad policies that add more code to the code. There are plenty of things related to taxes that people like me hate. The tax itself isn't it.

    In short, the premise is wrong, the poll is meaningless, and everything the thread accomplished is a mirage.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Why on Earth would anyone vote a)?

    a) you make $30K after taxes.

    b) you make $125K after taxes.

    You mean two people would rather make $30K then $125K?

    Weird.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    if you want people to be successful, then you do not punish success. This last one is a principle that is violated not only by the current income tax system but by many of our "social safety net" systems.
    Nope. It doesn't.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Why on Earth would anyone vote a)?

    a) you make $30K after taxes.

    b) you make $125K after taxes.

    You mean two people would rather make $30K then $125K?

    Weird.
    That isn't weird at all. Lots of people hate income taxes because it disincentivizes people to work.

    What is weird that there wasn't more people voting A.

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    Re: Which would you rather have?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Why on Earth would anyone vote a)?

    a) you make $30K after taxes.

    b) you make $125K after taxes.

    You mean two people would rather make $30K then $125K?

    Weird.

    The thread has two honest poor people.

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