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  • Yes, I homeschool

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  • No, I don't homeschool

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  • Yes, it's a viable option

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Do you homeschool your children and do you think you think it's a viable option for other families?
    I have noticed a trend on this thread that intrigues me. That is people say they are concerned about whether or not the children that are home schooled are socialized or not. My intrigue is specifically concerned with that socialization and what exactly people mean by it. So what do you mean?
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, I realize we are just comparing personal anecdotal experiences here, but I have never once seen a home-schooled child who was falling behind, and in fact, they are normally far ahead of their same-age peers.
    Though I support home schooling, I have seen some homeschooled kids that were obviously behind my public schooled kids. In the end, homeschooling and public schooling can both be done very well, very badly or just average.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I have noticed a trend on this thread that intrigues me. That is people say they are concerned about whether or not the children that are home schooled are socialized or not. My intrigue is specifically concerned with that socialization and what exactly people mean by it. So what do you mean?
    Well, from I've seen with my sister, they lived out in the boonies and really had nowhere to go. It was a trek just to go shopping. So my mom didn't really take her anywhere, so now it's awkward for her to meet people. I mean, she's not a recluse or anything. She's married, now, with a baby. But she just doesn't know how to make friends, refuses to be alone, is mentally and emotionally unable to go anywhere by herself. I mean, anywhere. She couldn't run to the store for a loaf of bread by herself. She doesn't really have any friends - she's only friends with my mother. It's really an odd situation.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What value did your education in Ancient Roman history have? Why do you talk about it here and again on this forum? Do you expect to be commanding any centurions soon? Are you biding your time until you're able to rule over the Mediterranean and have an affair with an Egyptian queen? Would you be happy if I were to use my Mind Wiping Device (just made it yesterday) on you and remove everything you know about Ancient Rome?

    See, you're talking to an artist here. I'm more aware than anybody that what I make has no concrete value. Hell, my life can practically be defined by its affair with uselessness -- I spent four years learning Latin, after all. Oscar Wilde, a guy who had more of a love/hate relationship with artists than anyone I know, said, "We can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it. The only excuse for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely. All art is quite useless." Ouch...but true. Is it acceptable to then say that we should tolerate the quashing of art as it is useless? What is really the harm?
    The issue here, as I see it anyway, is essentially trading one bit of peripheral knowledge for another.

    As much as people may hate to hear things phrased this way, evolution, for the average lay person, ultimately is little more than a secular "creation story." While I suppose that it might provide opportunities for a person to expand their imagination in the same way that my knowledge of history does (I will admit to dreaming up bizarre alien creatures and speculating upon their evolutionary histories myself from time to time), it's not like a person is necessarily being "deprived" of anything if they are simply taught a different creation story instead.

    Frankly, how many of these families are completely keeping knowledge of evolution away from their children anyway? A lot of the more fundamentalist Protestant families I knew would actually teach their children about evolution explicitly so that they could argue against it.

    That frankly strikes me as being somewhat misguided. However, it's better than nothing, I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I have noticed a trend on this thread that intrigues me. That is people say they are concerned about whether or not the children that are home schooled are socialized or not. My intrigue is specifically concerned with that socialization and what exactly people mean by it. So what do you mean?
    Honestly, judging from what I've seen of most of the rest of my generation, I don't even think I'd want to be "socialized."

    Maybe that's a bit myopic, but it is the way I sincerely feel on the matter.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Well, from I've seen with my sister, they lived out in the boonies and really had nowhere to go. It was a trek just to go shopping. So my mom didn't really take her anywhere, so now it's awkward for her to meet people. I mean, she's not a recluse or anything. She's married, now, with a baby. But she just doesn't know how to make friends, refuses to be alone, is mentally and emotionally unable to go anywhere by herself. I mean, anywhere. She couldn't run to the store for a loaf of bread by herself. She doesn't really have any friends - she's only friends with my mother. It's really an odd situation.
    So am I to presume the only real contact with humanity your sister had was with the family no consistent contact with people outside the family?
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Do you homeschool your children and do you think you think it's a viable option for other families?
    I do not home school any kids but it is not only viable it works better in every measurable way

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    The issue here, as I see it anyway, is essentially trading one bit of peripheral knowledge for another.

    As much as people may hate to hear things phrased this way, evolution, for the average lay person, ultimately is little more than a secular "creation story." While I suppose that it might provide opportunities for a person to expand their imagination in the same way that my knowledge of history does (I will admit to dreaming up bizarre alien creatures and speculating upon their evolutionary histories myself from time to time), it's not like a person is necessarily being "deprived" of anything if they are simply taught a different creation story instead.

    Frankly, how many of these families are completely keeping knowledge of evolution away from their children anyway? A lot of the more fundamentalist Protestant families I knew would actually teach their children about evolution explicitly so that they could argue against it.

    That frankly strikes me as being somewhat misguided. However, it's better than nothing, I suppose.



    Honestly, judging from what I've seen of most of the rest of my generation, I don't even think I'd want to be "socialized."

    Maybe that's a bit myopic, but it is the way I sincerely feel on the matter.
    When you say socialized what do you mean? I am trying to pin down what that means to people because I suspect it means different things to different people. I just want to understand better where people are coming from in this regard because when I think of socialization it seems it is not what others seem to think it is.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    So am I to presume the only real contact with humanity your sister had was with the family no consistent contact with people outside the family?
    No, she went to church. But she was just so off that she didn't really make friends. It's sad, really, that she spent her entire youth having no real friends, and she has none now as an adult, as a result. She was raised in a very religious home - Pentacostal, for those who know anything about it. No makeup, no pants, no cutting of the womens' hair, etc. Within that religion, as in many other religions, they wanted the kids to get together, you know? To both be of the same religion, in the home. Well, none of the guys in that religion would date my sister because she was so off. None of them. She ended up marrying outside the religion, to a guy who didn't know her. Shame, too. She's a beautiful girl, blonde hair, blue eyes. She just doesn't know how to make friends or meet people.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    All of my sons play team sports, and most of their teams through the years have had at least 1 child who was being homeschooled. You wouldn't look at those kids and think they were any different from the others who were all attending the public schools in town, except that in retrospect, they were more polite and respectful of adults than our kids were.

    I would home school my kids if they were getting bullied, were unhappy, or needed extra attention. I have a few friends that do it or have done it, and most of the time it was for the benefit of the kid for any number of reasons, and their kids were always well adjusted and very active in our town sports too. Home school kids have dances, parties and field trips just like my kids do, and got better lunches and actually got more exercise than my kids do during the school day.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    When you say socialized what do you mean? I am trying to pin down what that means to people because I suspect it means different things to different people. I just want to understand better where people are coming from in this regard because when I think of socialization it seems it is not what others seem to think it is.
    Near as I can figure, for most people, "socialization" can mean either one of two things with regard to children.

    A) That they learn to behave like everyone else around them so that they "fit in" with society at large and its prevailing social mores.

    or

    B) That they learn to easily interact with everyone else, so that they are not social outcasts.

    I think position B) has at least some merit, but position A) is nothing less than complete authoritarian nonsense.

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