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  • Yes, it's a viable option

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Usually homeschooled kids are one side of the bell curve. Either they're academically superior to those who are homeschooled, or are given no structure and end up without rudimentary skills.

    As far as socialization, same thing. If coddled, they can be ill-prepared for society, but they can also be very well-adjusted.

    People who think only negatives about homeschooling are probably less worldly than the children they're slandering. Also, full integration into society isn't always great, since much of society is f'ed up.
    As far as which homeschoolers are superior at what, one commonality is that all homeschoolers are consistently superior in reading, writing and arithmetic. I have yet to encounter an illiterate homeschooler. Once you go off the path onto ideological/religious topics things get decidedly messier.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Once you go off the path onto ideological/religious topics things get decidedly messier.
    Hold up a second. Isn't the cornerstone of liberal dogma that "Diversity is our strength."™ You seem to be arguing for a stultifying uniformity.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Since when have our public schools taught critical thinking?
    With different schools relying on the tax revenue determined by each district's real estate value, and each state determining its own curriculum, there is so little consistency that I would consider it unwise to uphold the public school system universally (especially as there really isn't such a thing as a public school system, per se). I'll repeat: these are perfectly valid reasons for homeschooling, and there are examples of such in this thread that I've seen (I think Superfly might be one such example). That said, public school systems don't set out to inculcate hostility for critical thinking as a matter of principle, and the religious, ideological type of homeschooling is widespread and harmful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Hold up a second. Isn't the cornerstone of liberal dogma that "Diversity is our strength."™ You seem to be arguing for a stultifying uniformity.
    Let's not carry on some kind of charade that you understand what I'm saying. I'm not in the mood for it.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As far as which homeschoolers are superior at what, one commonality is that all homeschoolers are consistently superior in reading, writing and arithmetic. I have yet to encounter an illiterate homeschooler. Once you go off the path onto ideological/religious topics things get decidedly messier.
    Oh, there are some whopping morons too. Some kids who are "homeschooled" are left to their own devices and told to sit unsupervised in front of a computer and just learn.Also, the progressive version is called "unschooling". These kids have liberal parents who think that taking their kids on roller coasters is a physics lesson, or shooting pool teaches you geometry. Needless to say, they're idiots.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That said, public school systems don't set out to inculcate hostility for critical thinking as a matter of principle, and the religious, ideological type of homeschooling is widespread and harmful.
    All parents who care about the welfare of their children so much that they're willing to endure the hardships of home schooling them are not going to be doing anything to harm those children.

    If you hold that they are harming them then this strongly signals that what you really mean is that these parents are doing something that you disagree with. That's all. You're just being flamboyant and imprecise in your use of language.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Is there necessarily a problem with that?

    It's hardly like our public educational system is "agenda free" either.
    Yes, there is a problem with that. Education is supposed to be about teaching facts, not someone's wingnut, asinine religious beliefs. We do children a disservice when we allow them to have their heads stuffed with religious nonsense.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As far as which homeschoolers are superior at what, one commonality is that all homeschoolers are consistently superior in reading, writing and arithmetic. I have yet to encounter an illiterate homeschooler. Once you go off the path onto ideological/religious topics things get decidedly messier.
    I haven't found that homeschooled children are being taught anything religious, as a part of their school curriculum. Undoubtedly, though, home-schooled children (in this part of the country) tend to come from homes where religion is a pretty important part of their lives. That being said, every home-schooled child I know, and have known, is scholastically superior to most of their peers, and goes on to higher education and professional careers.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    My main concern is that the parent isn't disciplined or qualified to teach their children at home. I think however offering school choice outside the public school system is the real answer. These are schools with licensed educators where often a liberal arts education is offered that promotes critical thinking. Not like No Child Left Behind or Common Core where learning the answers to specific questions in order to pass a series of tests and often not understanding the why except it is the correct answer really sucks!
    In a lot of instances, the parents really don't have to do anything, except just make sure that the child is at the computer, doing his or her work, every morning. The private school that covered my daughter took care of absolutely everything. It was all online, and all I had to do is make sure she was up, and working. They took care of everything, including grading and keeping up with attendance. At the beginning of the next school year, when we decided to allow her to go back to public school, they sent her transcript and it was a very smooth transition.

    I am sure that not all schools work this way. A friend of mine is homeschooling her children, and she actually has to teach them, keep up with attendance and everything else. Hers was much more labor intensive. Mine was gravy. But I paid for mine - I think hers is free. That could be the difference.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    My main concern is that the parent isn't disciplined or qualified to teach their children at home. I think however offering school choice outside the public school system is the real answer. These are schools with licensed educators where often a liberal arts education is offered that promotes critical thinking. Not like No Child Left Behind or Common Core where learning the answers to specific questions in order to pass a series of tests and often not understanding the why except it is the correct answer really sucks!
    I don't believe that many parents are even interested in home-schooling, unless they are either qualified, or planning to put their children into a home-schooling environment where the individuals who are teaching, ARE qualified. All the home-schooling parents that I know are very interested in making sure their children are getting an education which is superior to what the public schools are providing.
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