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  • Yes, I homeschool

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  • No, I don't homeschool

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  • Yes, it's a viable option

    49 67.12%
  • No, it's a dumb idea

    15 20.55%
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    Re: Homeschooling

    I don't think there's anything wrong with homeschooling.

    I think the focus should be on providing your children a better education than they could get in a public school. I think where homeschooling goes wrong is when it's a method to shield children from anything not strictly controlled by the parent. The real world is going to exist out there eventually for the child.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    Yes, I understand that and agree that everyone should have some universality. I just worry a lot about sacrificing good education on the altar of diversity. When I am trying to learn math, science, language, I think that it dilutes things. And while I agree that any history or social science will have a bias introducing several other biases will not greatly improve things. To overly simplify, history from Jefferson's perspective is going to be different from some slave's perspective or some woman's perspective but there are a near infinite number of other perspectives (by economic class, by prior nationality, by sexual orientation, by political views, by state/region/geographic, etc. and we are only fooling ourselves if we add 2 or 3 different views and call ourselves exposed to diversity. All we are doing is creating a slightly differently biased view of realities. There must be a better way of getting across the idea of different viewpoints without trying the ridiculously impossible task of enumerating them.

    EDIT: And we are creating the lie and destructive notion that all blacks are alike, all women are alike, etc.
    Exposure to higher frequency of viewpoints/perspectives provides the opportunity for students to acknowledge the bigger world picture better. This sample/taste of how diverse others are out there would work better than exposing students to single minded people. In the later version they may be shocked when harshly exposed to the chaos out there such as for instance the case was with Gathomas.

    The more people are exposed to various types of African Americans, various types of women the less they may accept that "All blacks are alike" and "All women are alike," etc.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Various backgrounds? Do you think people of varoius backgrounds can only be found in public schools?

    And by background, what do you mean? Country of ancestry? Economic? Societal? Location? Breastfed versus bottle fed? Religious?
    All those and much more.

    Yes they can be found everywhere but "no" the ones outside of school would be less interested to tackle scientific concepts from their own perspectives.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    That frankly strikes me as being somewhat misguided. However, it's better than nothing, I suppose.
    I think you're completely missing the point here. There is a difference between not teaching a student French and teaching the student that French is the "Devil's tongue." One is leaving the topic open (to one extent or another), the other is inculcating a dogmatic and narrow minded mentality.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I don't think there's anything wrong with homeschooling.

    I think the focus should be on providing your children a better education than they could get in a public school. I think where homeschooling goes wrong is when it's a method to shield children from anything not strictly controlled by the parent. The real world is going to exist out there eventually for the child.
    That is the rub. Most people are totally incapable of teaching their children sufficiently well for the children to have an equal opportunity even compared with a poor public school. Nor do most have the money to afford private tutors or to run their own private school.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Here's a question that's been bugging me. Why do parents want their children to learn to interact with their PEER group primarily? When my family looks at socialization we look at it from a completely different view, almost polar opposite. We look at it that the children should be getting as much interaction and socialization with ADULTS as they can and their PEER group is strictly for play and recreation any socialization that may come is simply by product of their play. Our view is that we are preparing our children for entry into the ADULT world, hence the need for as much adult interaction as possible. Working for and with and serving and being served by as many and as wide a group of adults as can be possible. So why the emphasis of most parents on this forum at least for children to socialize with their peer group?
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    So why the emphasis on socializing with the peer group?
    I can agree with that to a certain extent. I have always gotten on a lot better with adults than people my own age myself. Even today, most of the people I socialize with are at least 3 to 5 years older than I am.

    Come to think of it, having hordes of young children spending half of every day locked away together is a fairly recent invention anyway, and one which doesn't seem to result in especially productive outcomes a lot of the time at that.

    However, that being said, given the fact that the above is something our society makes a point of encouraging, a person really doesn't have any choice but to become at least somewhat familiar and comfortable with it. It's simply "how the game is played" these days.

    You kind of have to rely on the assistance of your peers to get ahead in life to a certain extent. You can't do it purely by yourself.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It harms their ability to think critically and rationally about the world around them. Studies show that the religious are much more likely to follow other forms of woo beliefs and be taken in by shysters. Once you allow in one bit of mind poison, you're much more likely to do the same with others.
    Mind poison? How about this -- you teach your children what you want them to know, and keep your nose out of the rest of everyone else's lesson plans. You know, you anti-religious crusaders are just as bad as the uber-religious people who blow up abortion clinics in the name of God, or fly planes into buildings because their God told them to.
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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Do you homeschool your children and do you think you think it's a viable option for other families?
    Yes it is a viable option but if you have access to a decent public school system I think it is a net negative. I also think it has to be done properly with the right qualifications and certifications.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think you're completely missing the point here. There is a difference between not teaching a student French and teaching the student that French is the "Devil's tongue." One is leaving the topic open (to one extent or another), the other is inculcating a dogmatic and narrow minded mentality.
    But, but, I took French for three years, and it is the devil's tongue. Not only that, but you have to fill your mouth full of marshmallows for proper pronunciation.

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    Re: Homeschooling

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    But, but, I took French for three years, and it is the devil's tongue. Not only that, but you have to fill your mouth full of marshmallows for proper pronunciation.
    If you can say "Taureau Merde" very loud and clear, you're on the right track, and most people will nod their heads in agreement about the trend of things! :

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