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Thread: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    with the still slow economy and no reason for hopefulness on the horizon, the public was looking for a viable alternative to Obama
    Johnson was a very popular republican governor in a democratic state. he was the kind of candidate those of us in the middle were hoping for. and if the republicans would not have excluded him from the primary, just as they did to Ron Paul in the prior race, Johnson could very possibly have wound up on the ticket and taken the white house
    the republicans did in 2008 and 2012 what the democrats did with gore, kerry and dukakis. offered a loser as candidate
    Johnson is far right on economic issues and far left on social issues and compromising on none of them, that is not the middle

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what was asked was not who was more electable but who would have been a better candidate
    and those three names would all have been better candidates
    Good candidates have the ability to win elections. None of those 3 had that.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Johnson is far right on economic issues and far left on social issues and compromising on none of them, that is not the middle
    my sense is that fiscal conservatism and social liberalism would have appealed to the independents in the middle ... and those are the voters who determine national elections
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my sense is that fiscal conservatism and social liberalism would have appealed to the independents in the middle ... and those are the voters who determine national elections
    my sense is that libertarianism especially the type that deifies purity in ideology above all else will always be a fringe element.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my sense is that fiscal conservatism and social liberalism would have appealed to the independents in the middle ... and those are the voters who determine national elections
    You just described Mitt Romney.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You just described Mitt Romney.
    Until he uttered some undemocratic statements, that is. Best he kept quiet about it. He wouldn't have fallen into the "1%'er who dislikes lower and lower-middle class folks" trap.
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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    my sense is that libertarianism especially the type that deifies purity in ideology above all else will always be a fringe element.
    Gary Johnson isn't anything like that. For example, he doesn't believe we should do away with public education, but is a supporter of vouchers thinking it will help increase school choice. A libertarian like myself is against school vouchers as it expands the domain of the state and furthers their hold on education. In fact, I would argue that it lowers school choice instead of expands it as it gives them an excuse to further control private schools.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Johnson was a strong supporter of Social Security and signed into law Medicare and that to you is far right on economic issues. Amazing.
    Gary Johnson signed Medicare into law?

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    gary johnson signed medicare into law?
    i deleted the message, i thought he was talking about lbj.


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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Ah okay.

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