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Thread: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    But I do agree with your larger point that both sides do it, Captain. They're both like spiders watching flies in their webs.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Rocket, he was referring to campaigning and not policy. That's the context being dropped. Stop being a sucker for context drops.
    He still said that 47% of the voting public were "dependent victims." Whether that's policy or not...well, you can debate that. But he basically started by insulting half the country no matter how you cut it.


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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm a ma'am, hence the pink ribbon over there in the "Gender" field <---------------------------------

    "You didn't build that" was a dig at small business owners. They most certainly did build that. And Romney most certainly did have a great number of women in high level positions in his administration - moreso, in fact, than Obama has in his.
    My apologies ma'am. I should have noticed that. Not meaning to derail the thread but the "You didn't build that," context was delivered to point out that the nation, it's education systems, infrastructure, security agencies, sets up business owners to succeed and it was mostly all built with public tax dollars. If someone is to take advantage of these things, by hiring educated workers, using highways and airports, utilizing police forces to protect their assets, etc., and profit thereby, there is a certain obligation to "pay back," for these services. I can produce the speech in it's entirety if you need me to.

    It was not meant to say that successful people did not deserve or work for their success. It merely pointed out that without these systems in place, chance are their success would be minimized. But that is what the partisans wanted us to believe he meant. They did that by using a clip from this sentence and a clip from that sentence and giving a partial overview of what was actually said.

    Point is, in today's political environment, taking things out of context, often to the point of it almost becoming an outright lie, is common practice in today's politics. The democrats used Romney's "47%" comments and did the very same thing as the republicans did to Obama's "You didn't build that," comment.

    Again, my apologies for my gender error. Have a wonderful day Ms. Borrachos.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    10 of the top 20 positions in Romney's MA administration were held by women. His lieutenant governor was a woman. His chief of staff was a woman.

    The "binder full of women" attacks were nothing but partisan sensationalism.
    "Binders full of women" was a very unfortunate choice of words. Funny in a way, but unfortunate.


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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    In my eyes he lost by being a mormon. I can't see anyone who wears "magical underpants" as our president.
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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    My apologies ma'am. I should have noticed that. Not meaning to derail the thread but the "You didn't build that," context was delivered to point out that the nation, it's education systems, infrastructure, security agencies, sets up business owners to succeed and it was mostly all built with public tax dollars. If someone is to take advantage of these things, by hiring educated workers, using highways and airports, utilizing police forces to protect their assets, etc., and profit thereby, there is a certain obligation to "pay back," for these services. I can produce the speech in it's entirety if you need me to.

    It was not meant to say that successful people did not deserve or work for their success. It merely pointed out that without these systems in place, chance are their success would be minimized. But that is what the partisans wanted us to believe he meant. They did that by using a clip from this sentence and a clip from that sentence and giving a partial overview of what was actually said.

    Point is, in today's political environment, taking things out of context, often to the point of it almost becoming an outright lie, is common practice in today's politics. The democrats used Romney's "47%" comments and did the very same thing as the republicans did to Obama's "You didn't build that," comment.

    Again, my apologies for my gender error. Have a wonderful day Ms. Borrachos.
    No worries, Captain - it happens all the time! Maybe the horse pic throws people off.

    I posted after my original post to you that I agree with you that both sides do it. That's why politics is so frustrating. We no longer live in a decent democratic society.

    You have a great day as well Captain!

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    "Binders full of women" was a very unfortunate choice of words. Funny in a way, but unfortunate.
    I'll agree with that. I had a quick vision of a bunch of ladies stuffed into a 3-ring something or other when I heard him say it. Then I was like "WTF did he say?" to my husband.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No worries, Captain - it happens all the time! Maybe the horse pic throws people off.

    I posted after my original post to you that I agree with you that both sides do it. That's why politics is so frustrating. We no longer live in a decent democratic society.

    You have a great day as well Captain!
    Looking over at your pink gender thingy, (did that sound right? LOL,) I also notice you are a conservative that lives in New England. Kudos to you for keeping the faith. That can't be easy. That would be much like a liberal living in Texas.

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Looking over at your pink gender thingy, (did that sound right? LOL,) I also notice you are a conservative that lives in New England. Kudos to you for keeping the faith. That can't be easy. That would be much like a liberal living in Texas.
    LMAO at "thingy".

    Yes we are among the very few left up this way. It is NOT easy, but so far New Hampshire (where I live) hasn't tipped too far off center - we still don't have an income tax so the Massachusetts expats haven't brought their special brand of liberalism to complete control (yet). Yes I can't imagine being a liberal in Texas either...

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    Re: Did The 47% Video of Mitt Romney Kill His Chances of Winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    LMAO at "thingy".

    Yes we are among the very few left up this way. It is NOT easy, but so far New Hampshire (where I live) hasn't tipped too far off center - we still don't have an income tax so the Massachusetts expats haven't brought their special brand of liberalism to complete control (yet). Yes I can't imagine being a liberal in Texas either...
    I know a SHSU professor in Texas that is a tree-hugger. She makes Rachel Maddow look like Rush Limbaugh. She is a real sweetheart who would give the shirt off he back but she is a bit too liberal for my tastes. Anyways, she had one of her neighbor's shoot her "Vote for Obama," yard sign with a shotgun, not once but twice. Once, she witnessed him get out of his truck, walk into her yard and blast it point blank. She called the cops but was left un-assisted. They suggested that she remove her Obama sign to avoid further trouble.

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