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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    What if carriers could go under water ? Obama might know something that we don't.

    I would go along with deactivating four carriers and reactivating four Iowa class BB's.

    At this time with the current administration who doesn't know how to use the military except for liberal social engineering and has big problems with just keeping two carriers at sea, our carriers today may look like a money rat hole. But it's very likely that the next Commander in Chief will not be a community organizer.
    1. Sending carriers underwater wouldn't do any good - they'd be too big and too noisy...and a lot more susceptible to major damage from one torpedo.

    2. We'll let the BB question rest - you and I beat that particular dead horse to death, IIRC.

    3. At least he knows how and when NOT to use the military, unlike a certain Republican administration (and I won't mention Dubya's name) whose only tool was the hammer of the military, and so that was at least part of his answers to all foreign policy questions.

    It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to think what a President McCain would have done had he been presented with the problems in Libya and Syria - our troops would likely be on the ground again, fighting and dying for a people who don't want us there to begin with. And if you'll remember, when it came to the Soviets - er, I mean, Russians - invading Georgia, what did Dubya do about that? What did the Right want him to do?

    Not much. Not even economic sanctions.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    why do we need ANY surface navy, or the army, or the marines, or ICBMS? ONE of our nuke missile subs has more firepower than the entire nuclear arsenal of Britian or France. Does anybody invade THEM? WE can defend the US just FINE with just the Natl guard, coast guard, subs, and the spec ops boys. if the latter can't handle something outside of our borders, just send the nukes. no biggie.

    with a TRILLION $ per year saved, we can give all the laid off military and spies (1.5 million of them) 20k a year for a couple of years, and have 900 billion to the good. :-)

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Increase spending on research and funding of private companies to continue innovation, reduce the amount of active troops everywhere by probably 50%, reduce the reserve by 20%, and then bring home the other 50% active and have them act as a paramilitary police form similar to a force of gendarmes. My views however can be very Machiavellian, not sure how the people would react to fully armed soldiers walking around enforcing normal laws or students reacting to fully armed soldiers occasionally checking on schools to ensure school massacres don't become an issue (soldiers discussing with students, teachers, and then reporting to the police about its finds).

    I feel that with a Military police (not MP like in the army but you get what I am saying) handling dangerous situations and doing mundane duties it allows the police (who are more knowledgeable with the law and more effective at investigating situations) to focus more on "big fish" like major drug cartels, online criminals, huge organized crime, etc. (literally putting almost all their effort into these investigations and such).

    But as I said, imposing fear on your citizens, some people may not agree with me on such things (Well I don't know, I wouldn't be fearful if I saw a soldier acting like police. I kind of would like to get to know them and share a laugh here and there) and think that I would be terrorizing a population.
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by ginwood View Post
    why do we need ANY surface navy, or the army, or the marines, or ICBMS? ONE of our nuke missile subs has more firepower than the entire nuclear arsenal of Britian or France. Does anybody invade THEM? WE can defend the US just FINE with just the Natl guard, coast guard, subs, and the spec ops boys. if the latter can't handle something outside of our borders, just send the nukes. no biggie.

    with a TRILLION $ per year saved, we can give all the laid off military and spies (1.5 million of them) 20k a year for a couple of years, and have 900 billion to the good. :-)
    "Just throw a nuke"

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    This thread is scary. The ignorance is strong here.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by ginwood View Post
    I'd cut it by at LEAST 90%. we don't need the Army, the surface navy, the air force or the Marines. we can defend the US just FINE with backpack nukes, the missile subs, the spec ops guys and the Natl'guard,
    OK, now will you make up your mind?

    One moment you want to put the military on the border, the next you want to disband it.

    I think you really do not have any idea about anything, you simply like to jump in and argue.
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I really dont understand why there is a question about this. We certainly need to decrease it. Were it not for all the pork we would not spend such stupid money on defesene. Our 20 year old birds are the best in the world
    Really? Oh, that's fantastic. Here I thought China was building a whole bunch of 5th Gen fighters while we were cutting back our F22 and F35 purchases, but apparently our old F16s are still #1.

    We still have an edge. But that edge fades rapidly with the need to project it and without continual reinvestment.

    and we buy new all the time. Why is that? I think we need to bring our bases back from all over the world, reduce the standing army (not hte Marine Corps) and strengthen reserves. The only rival the US might have is if Martians invade or there is a Zombie attack. Otherwise no other cournty in the world has got anything. Our only weakness is political stupidity. But yea, Obama is a weak ally. You guys are hive minded Obama hate all the time.
    The bolded is certainly correct. So long as that also covers our debt problem.






    Generally speaking, we need to restructure much of our defense spending. Shift to a defined-contribution rather than a defined-benefit program, give commands incentives to spend less than they are allocated, and use the savings to bulk up the Navy, which we desperately need to continue to secure the sea lanes that give us our first-world lifestyle.

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