View Poll Results: What would you do with our defense spending?

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    can't be using nukes over small stuff. But yes, get rid of 90+ % of the military, and just leave the savings in the pockets of the people who earned it. Screw your "re-distributing it elsewhere".

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    I'd give it a big hug and put it on a big diet.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    First your links don't really support you that well Iraq ranks 13 with the amount of guns in civilian hands. That's a pretty decent number. And secondly and more important the amount of guns has nothing to do with what I was saying I saw in those two countries. What I saw was what happens when untrained civilians with small arms goes up against a well trained and equipped military.
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    yeah, IF there's a functioning economy supporting that military. but if we have civil war here, there won't BE any economy, I promise you!

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I'd decrease it close to 80%. The military industrial complex has eaten up enough of taxpayer money.
    It was the military industrial complex that created the middle class of the 50's, 60's and 70's.

    Most jobs in the military industrial complex were well paying jobs.

    Then you needed all of those burger flippers to feed those working in the military industrial complex and construction workers to build the homes for those who worked in the military industrial complex.

    Then you have to look who really was responsible for producing all of the new products that have been developed over the past sixty or seventy years. The military industrial complex. From the internet, that computer you're on right now, cordless tools, cell and smart phones, tubeless tires, jet commercial airliners, GPS, and the Interstate Highway System.

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    the military and spy outfit costs us 1/2 million $ each. no thanks, that's 50x what they'd cost us on unemployment. and that's all our military IS, a huge, overpaid unemployment agency. They accomplish NOTHING, while we ARE being invaded by 1 million illegals per year!

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It was the military industrial complex that created the middle class of the 50's, 60's and 70's.

    Most jobs in the military industrial complex were well paying jobs.

    Then you needed all of those burger flippers to feed those working in the military industrial complex and construction workers to build the homes for those who worked in the military industrial complex.

    Then you have to look who really was responsible for producing all of the new products that have been developed over the past sixty or seventy years. The military industrial complex. From the internet, that computer you're on right now, cordless tools, cell and smart phones, tubeless tires, jet commercial airliners, GPS, and the Interstate Highway System.
    That is, actually, a very legitimate concern. Ok, so let's say we downside the military industrial complex drastically. Then what? Where do these people go? What do they do for jobs? "Real jobs" as someone said earlier in the thread? Phfft! Yeah, even one could define exactly what that means, it's not like those just fall off trees.
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What would you do with our defense spending? Would you downsize it? Increase it? Leave it the same? Please explain each of your choices.
    I'd slash defense spending, starting with my beloved aircraft carriers and the gargantuan logistics train required to keep them operationally effective. But there are other areas where we should maintain (or perhaps increase) spending - cyber capabilities, space control (yeah, space), and SpecOps. But the cost of these won't even come close to what we spend on our carriers.
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That is, actually, a very legitimate concern. Ok, so let's say we downside the military industrial complex drastically. Then what? Where do these people go? What do they do for jobs? "Real jobs" as someone said earlier in the thread? Phfft! Yeah, even one could define exactly what that means, it's not like those just fall off trees.
    I was just watching the business news regarding the unemployment rate and how many found a job last month. Last month over 400,000 Americans dropped out of the labor market, basically aren't collecting unemployment benefits any longer so are no longer counted by the government as being unemployed.

    Libs are suppose to be pro union but they have killed so many union jobs because of their anti defense policies.

    Most of those who build military aircraft at Boeing, Northrop, etc. those working in the ship yards, those manufacturing tanks truck, guns, radios, etc. are usually highly paid union members.

    Palmdale California use to be desert on the western edge of the Mojave. Nothing but Mojave Green rattle snakes and coyotes. When Lockheed moved the "Skunk Works" to Palmdale, look at it today. A ****ing city materialized . Grocery stores, liquor stores, McDonald's, restaurants, Targets and Walmarts, banks, appliance stores, doctor and dentist offices, Home Depots, gas stations, and homes had to be built originally to support the Lockheed employees.

    Building bridges rebuilding the infrastructure and construction jobs are all short term.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I'd slash defense spending, starting with my beloved aircraft carriers and the gargantuan logistics train required to keep them operationally effective. But there are other areas where we should maintain (or perhaps increase) spending - cyber capabilities, space control (yeah, space), and SpecOps. But the cost of these won't even come close to what we spend on our carriers.
    What if carriers could go under water ? Obama might know something that we don't.

    I would go along with deactivating four carriers and reactivating four Iowa class BB's.

    At this time with the current administration who doesn't know how to use the military except for liberal social engineering and has big problems with just keeping two carriers at sea, our carriers today may look like a money rat hole. But it's very likely that the next Commander in Chief will not be a community organizer.

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