View Poll Results: What would you do with our defense spending?

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Who said we wouldn't have those as well? I certainly didn't. I said that there should be no standing army, as in soliders sitting around getting paid to wait for someone to invade us. That doesn't mean our military can't have equipment in store. I said reduce it around 80% not 100%.
    I am sorry but this is kind of retarded. You do realize that it takes a long time to learn to fly a plane or a helicopter or even effectively use a tank. What would be the point of stockpiling that equipment if no one knows how to use it. Do you think people will just instinctively know how to set in and run a mortar or how to set up head space and timing on a 50cal.
    A trained and equipped military will kick the ever living crap out of a bunch of civilians with guns. Your plan of counting on the fact that lots of Americans have guns will keep any one from invading is horribly misguided. Any decent military could roll this country up rather quickly if it weren't for the military. Now there could be a good insurgency that would make life hell for the occupiers but that would only be after they already had control of the country and I don't think that is something we would find enjoyable.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I guess, but it would very hard to campaign when your voters were spread across the entire state. At least with my proposal, they're somewhat geographically together. Plus, your Congress member may have basically nothing in common with you other than living in the same state.
    There are certainly drawbacks. I guess politics being local still means that it must still be bound to location in the geographical sense.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    I am sorry but this is kind of retarded. You do realize that it takes a long time to learn to fly a plane or a helicopter or even effectively use a tank. What would be the point of stockpiling that equipment if no one knows how to use it. Do you think people will just instinctively know how to set in and run a mortar or how to set up head space and timing on a 50cal.
    A trained and equipped military will kick the ever living crap out of a bunch of civilians with guns. Your plan of counting on the fact that lots of Americans have guns will keep any one from invading is horribly misguided. Any decent military could roll this country up rather quickly if it weren't for the military. Now there could be a good insurgency that would make life hell for the occupiers but that would only be after they already had control of the country and I don't think that is something we would find enjoyable.
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Smartest thing you have said yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by ginwood View Post
    I'd cut it by at LEAST 90%. we don't need the Army, the surface navy, the air force or the Marines. we can defend the US just FINE with backpack nukes, the missile subs, the spec ops guys and the Natl'guard, Ditto the spy outfits. cut them by at least 90%. close all foreign bases except the sub-support spots. We can pay all the 1 million or so troops 20k per year (untaxed) to be laid off, and still save 3/4 trillion $ per year. And not have the world hating us for being bullies. Stop ALL foreign aid, it's just wasted. Start paying as yet childless women (worldwide) 5k each to be sterilized. Fingerprinting will stop "repeaters". Overpopulation is causing most of the problems and it's completely unnecessary. She can get 2 shots into her fallopian tubes, be out of service for 2 hours, and she'll have the kind of money that changes lives in the 3rd world, (ie, get OUT of there, start a biz there, get an education there). Also, 5k is enough to entice a bunch of the worst of the air-heads in the US, too. It's be a HUGE favor to any kids the latter would have had, for sure!
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    What would you do with our defense spending?-everybladeofgrass-jpg
    Sorry my friend but if you think a bunch of untrained civilians with small arms is going to stop an enemy who will be using infantry making full use of mortars artillery and CAS as well as being backed up by tanks and gunships I don't know what to tell you.
    I have personally seenwhat happens in that seneraio in both Iraq and Afghanistan and it's not pretty.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    I have personally seenwhat happens in that seneraio in both Iraq and Afghanistan and it's not pretty.
    No, actually you have not.

    http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/iraq
    http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/afghanistan

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    But then what do we do with the money we have not spent on the military?

    Save the money and reduce the deficit, or spend it on other more important things like infrastructure or healthcare?
    Could that be done? Both, realistically, I mean.

    My first thought is to reduce drastically while still maintaining strength, and reduce the deficit. But, our infrastructure is in desperate need of upgrading and we seriously need to reinvest in that.
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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Could that be done? Both, realistically, I mean.

    My first thought is to reduce drastically while still maintaining strength, and reduce the deficit. But, our infrastructure is in desperate need of upgrading and we seriously need to reinvest in that.
    Realistically, no, because our politicians and the government they run is utterly corrupt and inefficient, completely lacking common sense and decency.

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    how about just NOT TAKE that moneyin the first place from the people who EARNED it?

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    Re: What would you do with our defense spending?

    I would get rid of it completely. It's 21st century and there's nukes, no need for a military

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