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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You basically just said, "Don't like to pay taxes? Don't work".
    That strategy only works 100% of the time. This is exactly what someone should do if their taxes are too high. Duh! It's not rocket science.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    ....Why is it my burden to equalize some other person's income? Why can government force me to WORK and then take the proceeds of my LABOR and give that to another person.....
    Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because the government requires minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because the government insures that they are safe and work as advertised. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because the government provides laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

    Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient because the government protects his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because the government enforces laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, the government provides affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

    Joe begins his work day; if Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a government required worker compensation or unemployment check.

    Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

    Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because his legislators decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

    Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because the government provides car safety standards and maintains the roads. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government its nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. He is happy to see his dad who is now retired and lives on Social Security.

    On the way back he turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that government is bad. Joe agrees, “We don’t need big government ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”

    Original version written by John Gray, Cincinnati, Ohio. Revised by Hard Truth

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Most of the taxes that we pay are used for INCOME REDISTRIBUTION and not for providing PUBLIC goods, like roads, schools, border control, national defense, policing, courts, etc.
    Are you sure about that?

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    It is unfair that some young men are virgins and other young men are scoring with lots of women.

    It is unfair that some couples are infertile while other couples have lots of children.

    Lot's of things in life are unfair. That doesn't mean that you should discriminate against people in order to remedy that unfairness.
    I don't think this is the purpose of taxation.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Why is it my burden to equalize some other person's income?
    It isn't. You dont have to do it.
    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad
    Why can government force me to WORK
    They are the government. They have a police force and an army. They can pretty much do whatever they want. On the other hand, if you are talking about the United States government, they do not engage in forced labor.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad
    If the government can FORCE me to WORK then why can't the government FORCE people to have SEX?
    Nobody said they couldn't. They can force people to have sex.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    No but the upper middle class sure as hell do...
    How much is enough? 0.000000001%? 0.1%? 1%? 10%? 20%? 50%? 75%? 90%? 98%?

    I don't think it really matters how low or high taxes are. Americans will always hate taxes because of our history as a nation. Europeans don't act as stupid about taxes as we do. They categorize taxes as something that they buy like buying a donut or something. They just purchase their share of government services via taxation.

    Americans may never see taxes this way. They always consider it a completely loss. This has a lot to do with our history with England and King George.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I don't know anyone who voluntarily goes to work and then takes their paycheck and gives it to random strangers.
    You need to start hanging out with a better crowd. You have been hanging out with a lot of selfish a**holes. Lots of people give their money to random strangers. Have you ever heard of non-profit organizations or charities or good people that love other humans?

    You really need better friends. Your friends are bastards.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    I have trouble understanding where people get off thinking that this is some new atrocity. Taxes have existed since the beginning of stratified civilization.
    You have to be familiar with American history. We were founded on the concept of hating taxes and hating government mandated religion.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    do you believe the poor enjoy being poor and laugh at the rich paying taxes?
    Sometimes they do laugh at the rich paying taxes, just f*** with them. In reality that poor person would probably be willing to switch tax brackets with the rich person but only if the rich person would switch incomes.

    Hint: The people who complain about the unfairness of taxes on the rich aren't rich. I don't know about you but I find that hillarious.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You know what's offensive? Your continual habit of rhetorical sleight of hand. People understand the need to pay taxes for roads, policing, courts, national defense, border control, and such and they object to paying taxes so that the incomes of strangers can be supplemented. So when you come off all innocent-like and point to taxes being in existence for a long time to pay for PUBLIC GOODS, then you're insulting everyone here.

    There is no reason to tax me to pay for your hemorrhoid operation. You getting your hemorrhoids fixed benefits ONLY YOU, not the community. For the government to be so intrusive as to compel people to pay for you hemorrhoid operation is the equivalent of government compelling people to have sex.
    Are you complaining about taxes being too high? or are you complaining about the welfare system? They are completely seperate things.

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