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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    That's probably a safe bet
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    There are still some nations that aren't big on organized theft.
    He kinda answered it. Right?

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    I'm going to post this one more time because all of our resident communists have simply ignored this graph earlier in the thread.

    The United States already has the most progressive tax system in the world. If we're already the most progressive, perhaps the problem here is not "we need more progressivity in the tax system."


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    by the way, I am in NO WAY advocating people don't work. All I was saying was that there is no law forcing you to have a job, just like there's no law forcing sex. Although RiverDad really seems to want that law.
    Your quote states otherwise. You basically just said, "Don't like to pay taxes? Don't work".

    There isn't an ideology out there that doesn't find that disgusting. Even socialists and communists don't support personal defiance through self-enforced unemployment.

    Relax. It's nothing I haven't seen before. Almost every progressive kid on this boards thinks that the rich owe them a living. You're not alone.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You know what's offensive? Your continual habit of rhetorical sleight of hand. People understand the need to pay taxes for roads, policing, courts, national defense, border control, and such and they object to paying taxes so that the incomes of strangers can be supplemented. So when you come off all innocent-like and point to taxes being in existence for a long time to pay for PUBLIC GOODS, then you're insulting everyone here.

    There is no reason to tax me to pay for your hemorrhoid operation. You getting your hemorrhoids fixed benefits ONLY YOU, not the community. For the government to be so intrusive as to compel people to pay for you hemorrhoid operation is the equivalent of government compelling people to have sex.
    I'm happy you understand the need for taxes, but sadly, some people don't understand the basic principal. And like I said before, if you're passionate about taxation that's fine. It's your right as an American citizen. But no, paying for someone's operation is not as intrusive as compelling people to have sex. My main problem isn't with your stance, as much as it is with your poor comparisons.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    There's a difference, if you want to know my leanings, think Germany and England.
    Germany you say? OK, I'm fine with the top 10% of Americans paying the same proportion of taxes as Germany's top 10% of taxpayers. Thanks for offering.


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    But who will build the roads?
    Muh roads!
    "I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." -Thomas Sowell

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    I posted again just to clarify on this point. Sure it was a poorly worded original post, but as I've clarified, I wasn't advocating that, chill out sheldon
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Germany you say? OK, I'm fine with the top 10% of Americans paying the same proportion of taxes as Germany's top 10% of taxpayers. Thanks for offering.

    Sorry, a bit of confusion here, when I was talking about Germany I was responding to Gipper's post calling me a Leninist. What I was referring to was the socialism in that country which allows healthcare for all of its citizens, as well as free education for its people. I can understand how you took me to mean their tax structure. And in regards to the graph, Ill look into that. Like I said before, I was more angry with your sex metaphor than your argument.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    No but the upper middle class sure as hell do...
    Government employees pay too much taxes too. Wait! Doesn't there paycheck come from the government? It would be completely impossible for a government employee to pay taxes. lol I was stupid when I made that first sentence. I guess I didn't think it out all the way.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    But no, paying for someone's operation is not as intrusive as compelling people to have sex. My main problem isn't with your stance, as much as it is with your poor comparisons.
    Your standards don't prevail. Let me put on my socialist hat. I don't care what burdens I put on the people who are compelled to provide the sex. I happen to think that compelling people to do so will create a more equal, a "MORE FAIR" sexual marketplace - there are too may winners in the sexual attraction game and too many losers. Socialism in sex is the next new thing for socialism's mission of creating equality everywhere.

    If you, as a socialist, reserve the right unto yourself to declare that it is appropriate to steal one person's labor to pay for the personal consumption by another person, then I, being a momentary socialist, have the same freedom to declare that it is appropriate to impose the "sex tax" on attractive people. In both cases someone has to be made to comply in order to fulfill the greater good of creating both economic equality and sexual equality.

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