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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    a direct tax is stealing....
    It can't be stealing if the power to tax is delegated to our federal Congress.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Discrimination is the essence of law. We discriminate all the time: between expensive and cheap, between good and bad, between fast and slow, etc.
    Yes, Capitalism works on economic discrimination to allocate resources according to forms of wealth.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    But that does not render legitimacy to discrimination against people for what they were when they were born, does it? And I think you're using the particular definition of 'discrimination' as it refers to 'choice', whereas I'm using the particular definition as refers to 'prejudice'.
    And so your complaint is not with people's choices but with what is in their hearts as they make those choices?
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Yes, Capitalism works on economic discrimination to allocate resources according to forms of wealth.
    Capitalism is the great leveler. It does not respect prejudice.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    It can't be stealing if the power to tax is delegated to our federal Congress.
    i should not have to answer the simple basic principle which was laid down the Declaration of Independence. ....since YOU profess to know fundamental law.

    our constitution of the founders follows the principles of the DOI.... life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.......happiness is listed in the constitution as [property].

    founding principles are, government is created to protect all property, .....with MONEY of many other things being.......... property.

    in our constitution of the founders article 1 section 8 which deals with the power to tax STATES, not direct individual citizens, taxes are apportioned by population of the states themselves.

    states collect taxes on citizens, by voluntary action....thru TRADE, COMMERCE.

    when a person earns money, it becomes his property, subject to the protection of government(s), to use FORCE on a person and take money from him unwillingly, Defies the founding principles of liberty, and the right of property.

    as Madison states on the subject of Property 29 Mar. 1792

    "In the former sense, a man's land, or merchandize, or money is called his property"......

    "Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government, which impartially secures to every man, whatever is his own"

    the 16th amendment to our constitution Defies the founding principles laid out in the DOI, even though the DOI is fundamental law of the u.s....because it uses FORCE, to take from citizens that which........ is their property.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i should not have to answer the simple basic principle which was laid down the Declaration of Independence. ....since YOU profess to know fundamental law.

    our constitution of the founders follows the principles of the DOI.... life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.......happiness is listed in the constitution as [property].

    founding principles are, government is created to protect all property, .....with MONEY of many other things being.......... property.

    in our constitution of the founders article 1 section 8 which deals with the power to tax STATES, not direct individual citizens, taxes are apportioned by population of the states themselves.

    states collect taxes on citizens, by voluntary action....thru TRADE, COMMERCE.

    when a person earns money, it becomes his property, subject to the protection of government(s), to use FORCE on a person and take money from him unwillingly, Defies the founding principles of liberty, and the right of property.

    as Madison states on the subject of Property 29 Mar. 1792

    "In the former sense, a man's land, or merchandize, or money is called his property"......

    "Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government, which impartially secures to every man, whatever is his own"

    the 16th amendment to our constitution Defies the founding principles laid out in the DOI, even though the DOI is fundamental law of the u.s....because it uses FORCE, to take from citizens that which........ is their property.
    Unfortunately for you, you are forgetting, Socialism 101.

    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises,

    to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States;

    but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Unfortunately for you, you are forgetting, Socialism 101.
    article 1 section 8...does not collect taxes directly on the people.........EVEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!!!


    ........"the people are barred in their collective capacity in American government


    federalist 63---The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    In this area, I am for whatever tax policy Warren Buffet advocates. And.... he says the rich do not pay enough.

    And no, Warren Buffet is not a socialist.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    In this area, I am for whatever tax policy Warren Buffet advocates. And.... he says the rich do not pay enough.

    And no, Warren Buffet is not a socialist.
    no but he is a pimp and he is dishonest

    he claims the tax system is unfair but he uses all his power to avoid paying taxes

    he whines that the death tax should be higher yet he has set up his estate so the government gets NOTHING and he profits from the death tax because one of his main sources of income is selling life insurance policies.

    so its funny watching a conservative support his class warfare advocacy which basically is against the moderately rich



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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    article 1 section 8...does not collect taxes directly on the people.........EVEN YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!!!


    ........"the people are barred in their collective capacity in American government


    federalist 63---The true distinction between these and the American governments, lies in the total exclusion of the people, in their collective capacity, from any share in the latter, and not in the total exclusion of the representatives of the people from the administration of the former.
    Where does it say, except for direct taxation?

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