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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and just about everyone in the top 5% pay too much based on

    1) what they get in return

    2) what they use in government services

    3) what the rest of the country uses
    Depends on how strictly you define the word "service." Somebody has to broker those copyright arrangements with the Chinese government to ensure Apple and Google don't lose their patents to overseas derivatives. Somebody has to nurture experimental tech start-ups until they can produce marketable products and services. Somebody has to protect an American company's capital and resources in unstable polities in the Middle East and elsewhere.

    Usually big corporations depend on the government to take care of that stuff. Even a trillion dollar company like Apple doesn't command enough respect to make the Chinese government do what they want. Not in their own right.

    I would say that the opportunities to make wealth in the global economy are one slip away from the Wild West, unless someone is acting to prevent that from happening.

    What I can say for sure: my wealth is at least partly localized. Apple is affected a lot worse than me if something bad happens in the global market.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Really? Where would Jeff Bezos be without Government services and/or investment?
    where would all the alleged starving be without government handouts to feed them?



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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    where would all the alleged starving be without government handouts to feed them?
    You answer a question with another question? What about Jeff Bezos? He need the internet, mail, highways, air, satellite, etc. etc. etc. The fact is Turtle, the very rich depend upon the U.S. government to get rich.


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's not silly at all, people pay taxes as individuals, not as a group.
    And yet the thread refers to "the rich" as a group. You can't have it both ways.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Yeah, condemn those people who are unemployed (even though there's 3X as many people looking for jobs as there are jobs available) and those who are making too little at their jobs to pay for food, clothing, and housing! Why aren't they paying their taxes!!!!
    The top 25% of earners pay 87% of federal income taxes so the problem you claim doesn't actually exist.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    And yet the thread refers to "the rich" as a group. You can't have it both ways.
    Of course I can, the rich pay taxes as individuals.


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Of course I can, the rich pay taxes as individuals.
    And as individuals they're included in the top 10% of earners.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You answer a question with another question? What about Jeff Bezos? He need the internet, mail, highways, air, satellite, etc. etc. etc. The fact is Turtle, the very rich depend upon the U.S. government to get rich.

    that doesn't justify the top 5% paying more for those services than the rest of the country combined

    GO AHEAD and claim that the bottom 95% use LESS government services than the top 5%. such an assertion would damn you to permanent residency on the list of those not to ever be taken seriously again



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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    And as individuals they're included in the top 10% of earners.
    Correct and they should pay taxes based upon what they earn. It's nice to see we finally agree.


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that doesn't justify the top 5% paying more for those services than the rest of the country combined

    GO AHEAD and claim that the bottom 95% use LESS government services than the top 5%. such an assertion would damn you to permanent residency on the list of those not to ever be taken seriously again


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