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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Well, Glen, you posted more than once that people should be paid a "living wage". If you don't know in your mind what exactly it is, how can you ask for it?
    I think my oldest son needs to lose weight to decrease his risk from diabetes, but since I don't know the best way for him to do so due to his history with rheumatic fever, does that mean that I shouldn't say he should lose weight?

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Haha. Sounds familiar...

    We do need taxes for infrastructure, defense, and other public market failures. They just don't have to be near what they are now.
    Roads and other PUBLIC GOODS account for about 7% of Federal Government spending.


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Roads and other PUBLIC GOODS account for about 7% of Federal Government spending.

    Don't forget defense and other things too. But still, way too much in taxes.

    I'd like to have a flat tax of around 20%, exemption on the first 20k income (30k MFJ) and no deductions for children. Slash enough entitlement and leech crap, and you have a good system.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    I believe we only need to tax the wealthiest until we solve simple poverty, and lower our tax burden.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Earlier in the conversation I pointed out that IMO a living wage should be defined as the amount it takes to feed, clothe, and shelter four people - an adult couple with two children. One could say that this is in effect a minimum wage that would be set for local conditions. This would not violate 'equal pay for equal work'.
    Raising the minimum wage to about $11.50/hour might accomplish that, yielding 100% of the federal poverty level for four people (with one woirking full-time at that rate) but likely at the cost of many jobs.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I think my oldest son needs to lose weight to decrease his risk from diabetes, but since I don't know the best way for him to do so due to his history with rheumatic fever, does that mean that I shouldn't say he should lose weight?

    Just because we can't answer specific details about what we think that a thing needs to be done, does not negate our moral right - and often, our duty - to say that thing needs to be done.
    Wow. Talk about a...I don't even know what to call that first sentence.

    You have a right to chant for a "living wage". And I have a right to call you out for chanting about something that you don't even know what you're chanting about.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Raising the minimum wage to about $11.50/hour might accomplish that, yielding 100% of the federal poverty level for four people (with one woirking full-time at that rate) but likely at the cost of many jobs.
    Can you show where a significant hike in the minimum wage in the past has resulted in a loss of many jobs?
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wow. Talk about a...I don't even know what to call that first sentence.

    You have a right to chant for a "living wage". And I have a right to call you out for chanting about something that you don't even know what you're chanting about.
    Hey - YOU are the one saying that if we can't list all the details involved in something, that we can't ask for that something. I simply showed you an example of how silly your reply was.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Great - more "you didn't create that, I did" Obama blowjob talk.

    Mediocre people have that mentality.
    If there is some obvious reason why I should change my mind, feel free to mention it.
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