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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    If my study of the human condition has taught me anything, its that nobody should have any power. The vast majority of human beings are greedy troublemakers.

    If someone has to have power, it should be the people who care about other people.

    Rich men have a tendency to care about themselves and their own interests, ahead of everyone and everything else. Not the best qualities for a public servant.
    an excellent argument why government should not have the power to tell someone how much wealth they own



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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    It appears crystal clear to me those who believe in distribution of wealth do so because they don't have to pay hardly a penny to fund all that they deem "fair". They also are most likely recipients of such entitlements. By introducing tax reform that made EVERYONE pay their fair share to cover the cost of all entitlement spending as well as funding the highways they use often and enjoy the idea of safe borders, then and only then will people realize that there is no such thing as a Rock Candy Mountain where money grows on trees and nothing is ever really free. Someone has to pay for it and that someone should include them. It would stop the feckless spending and this constant search of a new victim in need of entitlements. Instead personal responsibility may well be restored. Imagine that!

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That's IMHO is anti-American thought.
    its the views of the founders: only landowners voted. those who contribute nothing to the treasury should not be able to vote themselves benefits others paid for



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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Maybe you should try harder to become more productive and not be satisfied with your current situation before you judge the income of others...
    Didn't I just say that my life is fine and dandy? I golf and surf in the sunny South Pacific daily and but my posts sound scared and alarmist to you? I am quite confident that my childhood was the life styles of the rich and famous compared to probably everybody on this site... but go ahead and sound like a douche bag if you want. If you don't have anything better to offer then I will spend my time discussing things with those that can positively contribute and not make veiled ad homs...

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    an excellent argument why government should not have the power to tell someone how much wealth they own
    Don't see why that follow. Wealth is power, and wealthy people tend to be the biggest and greediest troublemakers. Wouldn't want them to have more power.
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    When I see KKK dudes riling up a riot against people they don't like, I want to tell them to STFU and disperse. When I see class warriors burning up with envy and trying to harm people, I want to tell them to mind their own business. What other people earn doesn't affect you. Your envy is something better discussed with your therapist than with a political mob.
    Thank you, but I already have healthcare so I don't need you. Got it? I have no envy for their money, but I sure would like the way they "earn" it made illegal. They use super computers to make stock trades, they can't lose.


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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Dick, I'm not your bud...
    Oh, look who is getting all pissy...
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Didn't I just say that my life is fine and dandy? I golf and surf in the sunny South Pacific daily and but my posts sound scared and alarmist to you? I am quite confident that my childhood was the life styles of the rich and famous compared to probably everybody on this site... but go ahead and sound like a douche bag if you want. If you don't have anything better to offer then I will spend my time discussing things with those that can positively contribute and not make veiled ad homs...

    I never indicated you were scared. You intimated that others might have been scared by wealth as you were growing up. Would you like me to find your post, or do you remember it?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Don't see why that follow. Wealth is power, and wealthy people tend to be the biggest and greediest troublemakers. Wouldn't want them to have more power.
    so your solution to the wealthy having too much power is to give even more power to an even more powerful entity -government?

    yeah that makes LOTS OF SENSE given the wealthy are hardly a monolithic interest group.



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    Re: Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You make a nice case for the rich being granted more voting power than the poor.
    Who needs more voting power? They have greater access and influence anyway.

    The act of voting has become so meaningless that "voting power" has become an oxymoron. Voting isn't empowering.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so your solution to the wealthy having too much power is to give even more power to an even more powerful entity -government?

    yeah that makes LOTS OF SENSE given the wealthy are hardly a monolithic interest group.
    They are in the ways that matter.

    Lobbyists are a professional class of people who basically network for a living, same as a businessman or a movie provider who is charged with sourcing funding for a company's operations. Difference is, they source political influence.

    The NRA is basically a business. They don't have shareholders, but personnel (particularly the leadership) get pay raises the more donations they get. Where threats to gun ownership don't really exist, they invent them to continue justifying (and expanding) their existence.

    Rich people may not be of uniform opinion, but when a lobbying group with a proven track record knocks on the door and says they can lower the effective tax rate on corporations and wealthy individuals, the diversity of their opinions drops down to just one: Yes please
    Last edited by Morality Games; 04-16-14 at 10:32 PM.
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