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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    With Ukraine possibly about to descend into civil war, should the US send in troops to help the government?
    Civil War?

    I do believe the people of the Ukraine are fighting insurgents, Russian speaking, claiming to be from Crimea.

    I also believe that since the west touched this hole thing off through CIA meddling in Kyiv two months ago, and therefor have a responsibility to either use its diplomatic influence or some military aid to back off the Russians.

    What will happen is the Kyiv will return to puppet Russian leadership as it was a few months ago.

    Another international initiative by the Obama administration.
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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?
    not only no, but **** no.

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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    I also believe that since the west touched this hole thing off through CIA meddling in Kyiv two months ago, and therefor have a responsibility to either use its diplomatic influence or some military aid to back off the Russians.
    Are we the only country that takes responsibility for its actions?

    Can we start blaming the Mossad when our government is incompetent?
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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    With Ukraine possibly about to descend into civil war, should the US send in troops to help the government?
    I'm not in favour of the US sending troops directly to the region. That would be a provocation that likely would not end well.

    That said, the US did sign an treaty agreement with Ukraine, Russia also a signatory, that in exchange for Ukraine relinquishing their nuclear weapons they would be protected by the signatories from any invasion of Ukraine. Seems to me that the US does, as such, have a higher level of responsibility in helping Ukraine get past this problem.

    I would, however, be much more comfortable if any such action was withheld until after the new elections in Ukraine in May. This interim government does not have the approval of the people, only the approval of the parliament, and the US and NATO may be entering a situation where, in the end, they will be seen as the invading parties.
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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    With Ukraine possibly about to descend into civil war, should the US send in troops to help the government?
    I would give a qualified no to that.

    The EU mishandled its relationship with Ukraine and caused the situation. Ukraine is a European country and the regional solution should be from within the neighborhood. The free riders in EU should begin to learn what responsibility costs. The US warned the EU and especially the Germans of becoming dependent on Russian energy and the poopooed arrogantly.
    Nevertheless, we should stand by our allies and help. But it is an EU problem and we should not make it ours.

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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    No troops of course. That is lunacy.

    We should beef up the bordering NATO members though. Don't want them to be a tempting target.

    We should help Ukraine with military and non-military aid to the max extent possible short of actual troops. Remember, Russia has been supplying Assad for the last few years. If we had put any assets close enough to Syria to be shot at, they would have been shot at with Soviet/Russian made arms (probably supervised by Russian advisors). They are also supporting the Iranians which is in direct conflict with our interests. Why is it that we are so concerned with not supplying lethal aid, but Russia gets a free pass to supply our enemies with lethal aid? We're handicapping ourselves and others with that policy.

    We should be working tirelessly to stem Europe's dependence on Russian gas and oil.

    We should expand economic sanctions.

    We should NOT be talking about slashing nuclear weapons. Sends the wrong message.

    We should be upgrading our nuclear capability and general weaponry capabilities to reflect a military moving away from the irregular warfare of the last 13 years and more toward it's traditional role as a strategic deterrent.

    Obama is doing some of these slowly. I think he could do more and faster. He's still acting like there's a way Russia can stop now (it won't), and still be allowed back into the international community as though nothing happened (it shouldn't).

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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    We should get Romania to request NATO protection....and supply it in the Black Sea and in the country. I think a carrier group, a couple attack subs, perhaps a few dozen fighter bombers....and some seals might make Putin consider his current direction. Definitely rethink further expansion.
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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    Without energy independence from Russia, all that will accomplish will be giving Putin an excuse to double down on military modernization/expansion.

    And who will be held responsible to sacrifice their domestic agenda to pay for the free worlds security? It ain't gonna be the swiss.
    NATO member nations...mostly the United States. Likely far less costly than the last fiasco.

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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    With Ukraine possibly about to descend into civil war, should the US send in troops to help the government?
    No! The USA/CIA/NED/NGOs created this problem and they can't cure it. They should ask Russia to bring troops in to stabilize Ukraine. Russia has been the only consistently honest actor in this embroglio. Russia was the only Nation actually helping Ukraine. We installed a rabble "opposition" gov't that likely killed their own protestors in Kiev with Parubliy's snipers operating out of the Ukrainya Hotel under absolute control of the opposition. The USA installs pre-ordained "billionaire oligarchs" to secure Central Bank interests, not the Ukrainian people's interests. Now the oligarchs want to kill brother Ukrainians to maintain control. John Brennan, the head of the USA CIA was in Kiev over the weekend to initiate the go ahead for the coming war. The USA is the bad actor in this kabuke show imitating a spontaneous opposition overthrow. The spontaneous opposition is what is occuring now. It is opposition Ukrainians, not terrorists, spontaneously objecting to Western control/influence over thir affairs.

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    Re: Should the US Send Troops to Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    With Ukraine possibly about to descend into civil war, should the US send in troops to help the government?
    Yes. We should dramatically expand the upcoming exercises in July and accelerate them to this coming month. Move troops to Kiev and Odessa to block a potential Russian advance and keep them along the Dnieper River. This avoids potential contact with Russian troops (I'm sorry 'Russian militants') and make a would be Russian invasion that much more blatant. It is imperative that we act quickly.

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