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Have you heard of Nathan Trapuzzano?

I did not read this whole thead and am not sure if it went off into race or something...but the kid that did the shooting is a 16 year old psychopath that should have been institutionalized when he was caught throwing rocks off overpasses at age 9. The kid was seen on the local news being takin to a hearing in chains by the sheriifs, he was laughing and giggling etc. A souless sick nut, but not national news.
 
This from the person who said that nobody cares if a white person dies. Now you're trying to make it not about that. What a hoot.

Considering the lack of airplay and national outrage, I'd say that is an accurate statement. Nevertheless, it's a symptom, not the disease.
 
Wow, mac, you're one of the last people I'd expect to create a race-baiting thread like this. :(

The difference in the Trayvon Martin case is palpable. An unarmed teenager was killed by a guy who'd been literally stalking him, and the police didn't even arrest the shooter. Why? Because of Florida's Stand Your Ground Law... that's why. Under SYG, the shooter simply had to tell the police that he feared for his life, then the police pat him on the back and send him home... because, as John Stewart so aptly put it, "He said, he dead", so only one side of the story was told and only one side was necessary according to SYG.

That is why it became national news as the outrage over the fact that a teenager could be gunned down a few steps from his own apartment, and the shooter just shrugged and said, "Hey, I was afraid" and poof! The police send him on his way even before the body was moved.

As for those who are using Al Sharpton, whom I despise, and Obama, for whom I have little use, as a scapegoat for the public outrage, may I remind you that neither of them said anything or had any knowledge of this case before the story went national, and made their statements after the story had become #1 news on all the media. They did not cause the public outcry; they responded to it.

I swear to god, people seem to shake their heads so hard their brains fly out their ears when it comes to this Martin/Zimmerman ****-storm, otherwise known as the story that will never die. I'm sick to death of seeing it brought up every time someone gets a bug up their ass to create yet another race-baiting thread. :2mad:
 
Amazing.

Mac asks a perfectly acceptable question, and he is accused of being a race baiter.

People are claiming that the national interest in the Martin case was because of a Florida law, and excusing Obama at the same time. Obama's words were not about Stand Your Ground - he was talking about Martin being followed by Zimmerman because Martin was black.

Obama spoke after Zimmerman was aquitted. His entire speech was about racial profiling.

Talk about disingenuous comments.
 
The case I'm referring to is not just a simple robbery.

Would you be outraged if both people involved were the same race? Or does that just not carry the same persecution baggage?
 
Amazing.

Mac asks a perfectly acceptable question, and he is accused of being a race baiter.

People are claiming that the national interest in the Martin case was because of a Florida law, and excusing Obama at the same time. Obama's words were not about Stand Your Ground - he was talking about Martin being followed by Zimmerman because Martin was black.

Obama spoke after Zimmerman was aquitted. His entire speech was about racial profiling.

Talk about disingenuous comments.

SYG and other laws is why Z/M took on a life of it's own. Obama didn't even comment on it until the pot had already been stirred up.

And the thread is classic race-baiting. He (and you) are outraged because a white victim isn't getting the same press as a black victim, and are bringing Z/M, Al Sharpton and Obama into it for no real reason other than to stoke the fires of persecution. It's not similar to Z/M in any respect whatsoever. It couldn't be more different from it if you tried to make it more different, and that's just the facts of the case if you completely look past anyone's race.
 
SYG and other laws is why Z/M took on a life of it's own. Obama didn't even comment on it until the pot had already been stirred up.

And the thread is classic race-baiting. He (and you) are outraged because a white victim isn't getting the same press as a black victim, and are bringing Z/M, Al Sharpton and Obama into it for no real reason other than to stoke the fires of persecution. It's not similar to Z/M in any respect whatsoever. It couldn't be more different from it if you tried to make it more different, and that's just the facts of the case if you completely look past anyone's race.

Don't try to rewrite history. Obama commented on it after the case was closed in the court of law.

There are race baiting threads all over this board. I'm sure you're calling out those posters as you called out Mac, yes?

I'm not outraged. I'm pointing out the irony of Obama commenting on the Martin situation after it had been decided - and with him having no evidence that Zimmerman trailed Martin simply because Martin was black. And there's no race baiting in that comment.
 
Don't try to rewrite history. Obama commented on it after the case was closed in the court of law.

There are race baiting threads all over this board. I'm sure you're calling out those posters as you called out Mac, yes?

I'm not outraged. I'm pointing out the irony of Obama commenting on the Martin situation after it had been decided - and with him having no evidence that Zimmerman trailed Martin simply because Martin was black. And there's no race baiting in that comment.

Obama, Obama, Obama!:scared:
 
He's President. Or did you forget that, rocket?

Yes, but he doesn't control everything. Personally, I don't think he should have said anything about Trayvon Martin.

My recollection was that his original comments were before the verdict. At any rate, it doesn't change the fact that the pot was already stirred long before he looked at it.
 
The kid that murdered the guy is a teenage psychopath that the system should have locked away a decade ago. It has nothing to do with race. I am not reading the whole thread to try to figure out how someone made that connection. It just isn't true.
 
YES !!
Punk scumbags in Indy killed him while he was on his morning run.
Left his 8 1/2 mo pregnant wife alone to raise their baby!!

If there is justice they either will fry here or in hell!!!
Should have been carrying.
 
I had to google him. I don't follow crime stories so there is no reason I would have heard of him.
Main stream media isn't interested. You will never hear the story from them. Gee, I wonder why?
 
Yes, he should have. THe place he was killed is a couple miles from where I work. I ride my bicycle a bout 30 miles a day (if it ever quits snowing) through some not real great areas of town and never carry on my bike. But the area he was I would not walk down the street unarmed. It doesn't seem like a real high crime area but seems to be a lot of random violence. And lots of drugs.
Should have been carrying.
 
It is a big local story, but not national news. Race was not involved. The victim might have been black for all I know. The big thing is the killer is psycho and was born that way or at least was by age 9.
Main stream media isn't interested. You will never hear the story from them. Gee, I wonder why?
 
It is a big local story, but not national news. Race was not involved. The victim might have been black for all I know. The big thing is the killer is psycho and was born that way or at least was by age 9.

Zimmerman issue was a local issue too.
 
Yes, but he doesn't control everything. Personally, I don't think he should have said anything about Trayvon Martin.

My recollection was that his original comments were before the verdict. At any rate, it doesn't change the fact that the pot was already stirred long before he looked at it.

It was after the verdict.

Remarks by the President on Trayvon Martin | The White House

You are correct that Obama doesn't control everything. He does, however, control his own words.
 
The kid that murdered the guy is a teenage psychopath that the system should have locked away a decade ago. It has nothing to do with race. I am not reading the whole thread to try to figure out how someone made that connection. It just isn't true.

There was no evidence that Zimmerman shot Martin because of race either, mak.

I think the OP's point was that the Martin story was covered ad nauseum, for some unknown reason, and this story wasn't.
 
There was no evidence that Zimmerman shot Martin because of race either, mak.

I think the OP's point was that the Martin story was covered ad nauseum, for some unknown reason, and this story wasn't.

It was the false accusation that Zimmerman shot Martin because of race that took the story into the national media. It was covered ad nauseum because of the false racial narrative.
 
Uh, Martin was unarmed and was killed, the shooter should be in prison, but was not even arrested. In this case the shooter was arrested and thrown in jail as he should have been. If the shooter in Indianapolis was not arrested and the local PD called it self defense even thought the vic was unarmed, then it should be a national story too. Apples and oranges. Or hammers or something, but this story is in no way similar to Zimmerman in any way except there was a murder.
There was no evidence that Zimmerman shot Martin because of race either, mak.

I think the OP's point was that the Martin story was covered ad nauseum, for some unknown reason, and this story wasn't.
 
Zimmerman killed an unarmed minor and got off because of some self defense claim.
It was the false accusation that Zimmerman shot Martin because of race that took the story into the national media. It was covered ad nauseSum because of the false racial narrative.
 
Uh, Martin was unarmed and was killed, the shooter should be in prison, but was not even arrested. In this case the shooter was arrested and thrown in jail as he should have been. If the shooter in Indianapolis was not arrested and the local PD called it self defense even thought the vic was unarmed, then it should be a national story too. Apples and oranges. Or hammers or something, but this story is in no way similar to Zimmerman in any way except there was a murder.

The victim in this case was also unarmed and killed.

The story is the difference in coverage, not the crime.
 
The killer is in prison, not out manning some crimewatch thingy. See the difference?
The victim in this case was also unarmed and killed.

The story is the difference in coverage, not the crime.
 
Zimmerman killed an unarmed minor and got off because of some self defense claim.

Not going to re-litigate that - it's over, the jury made their decision so deal with it. I'm simply pointing out why the Martin case got national attention and why Trapuzzano's case is not getting widespread national attention.
 
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