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Have you heard of Nathan Trapuzzano?

It was "sensationalized" because the facts of the case were much more unique and rare than the facts of this case. I do not understand why it's so difficult for you to comprehend that.

It's difficult to understand because understanding that wouldn't allow him to play the victim.
 
Will Obama make public comments on this guy's death? I doubt it.

Obama was racially profiled? Interesting. Is that why he wasn't able to get into a good college, get into a good law school, get good jobs, get elected to public office, get elected to the most powerful position in the world?

According to him, yes.

Remarks by the President on Trayvon Martin | The White House

You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.

There are very few African American men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven't had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me -- at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And I don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear. The African American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws -- everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case.
 
Obama whining. Nothing new.

Nathan Trapuzzano experienced being followed by a black kid with a gun in a dark street pre-dawn. That's a lot worse than being followed in a department store. My 3 white kids also get followed in department stores. I've seen it myself.
 
Not at all. The lack of evidence to the contrary, the verdict was probably the only one that could have been reached.

But he would have to be guilty for this to be in any way comparable. Don't let the simple fact that this is in no way comparable to Z/M stop you guys from playing the victim card though.

I'm not a victim. I'm alive. I think you're confusing me with Nathan Trapuzzano.
 
I'm not a victim. I'm alive. I think you're confusing me with Nathan Trapuzzano.

Right, because nothing says "not playing the victim" like running around screaming "I'm being persecuted! I'm being persecuted! The scary libruls are out to get me!"
 
Obama whining. Nothing new.

Oh, brother.

Nathan Trapuzzano experienced being followed by a black kid with a gun in a dark street pre-dawn. That's a lot worse than being followed in a department store. My 3 white kids also get followed in department stores. I've seen it myself.

Of course it is, and nobody said it wasn't.
 
Right, because nothing says "not playing the victim" like running around screaming "I'm being persecuted! I'm being persecuted! The scary libruls are out to get me!"

Wow, someone must have hacked into my account. Can you show me where those posts were made under my user name so I can report them to a moderator?
 
Did you have to google Trayvon Martin?

When the story first picked up steam about a month after the incident itself occurred, yes I had to do some serious googling. Remember the Trayvon thing happened and pretty much stayed a local news story for a couple weeks, then people were like outraged that it wasn't getting more press and then suddenly it did when the families hired lawyers and agents.
 
Wow, someone must have hacked into my account. Can you show me where those posts were made under my user name so I can report them to a moderator?

Obviously, rocket's using hyperbole. But you DID say that the reason the media "isn't interested" in the story is because "a black teenage thug shot a good decent deeply religious man." Because apparently "the media" is biased in favor of black teenage thugs/against good decent deeply religious men?

The reason the story didn't get national play is because it's a routine (albeit extremely tragic) crime story. Someone was killed, the perpetrator was arrested.
 
Wow, someone must have hacked into my account. Can you show me where those posts were made under my user name so I can report them to a moderator?

Now it's the "I didn't say that" game. You guys are so predictable.

I must have been reading a different thread where the whole point was how horribly persecuted white people are.
 
Obviously, rocket's using hyperbole. But you DID say that the reason the media "isn't interested" in the story is because "a black teenage thug shot a good decent deeply religious man." Because apparently "the media" is biased in favor of black teenage thugs/against good decent deeply religious men?

The reason the story didn't get national play is because it's a routine (albeit extremely tragic) crime story. Someone was killed, the perpetrator was arrested.

I was being facetious as well.

But I do think the Martin story was taken way too far. And I don't think it was something that the POTUS should have commented on. It didn't help things. While we all may agree that Zimmerman only followed Martin because he was black, we'll never really know - and Obama shouldn't have stepped in because his comments only inflamed.
 
Now it's the "I didn't say that" game. You guys are so predictable.

I must have been reading a different thread where the whole point was how horribly persecuted white people are.

You must have been. I never said nor even implied that white people are "persecuted". I was commenting on the overindulgence given to the Martin story - which was a non-story.
 
What the hell is this about, anyway?

I see the discussion, but I apparently haven't heard of whatever even prompted it.
 
I was being facetious as well.

Good to know.

But I do think the Martin story was taken way too far.

As with pretty much every story that gets saturation coverage, it's hard to argue with that point. I agree. I dunno if it was "Missing Malaysian Airliner on CNN" bad, but it was bad. Unfortunately, too many media outlets (CNN being the prime offender) tend to find one hot-button story and simply beat it to a bloody pulp.

And I don't think it was something that the POTUS should have commented on. It didn't help things. While we all may agree that Zimmerman only followed Martin because he was black, we'll never really know - and Obama shouldn't have stepped in because his comments only inflamed.

"Inflamed" what? From what I can tell, the only thing Obama's comments did was piss off conservatives, which seems to happen every time he opens his mouth.

There were lots of things surrounding that incident and the trial and aftermath that were unnecessary and inflammatory. I think Obama's comments were pretty far down on the list.
 
Good to know.



As with pretty much every story that gets saturation coverage, it's hard to argue with that point. I agree. I dunno if it was "Missing Malaysian Airliner on CNN" bad, but it was bad. Unfortunately, too many media outlets (CNN being the prime offender) tend to find one hot-button story and simply beat it to a bloody pulp.



"Inflamed" what? From what I can tell, the only thing Obama's comments did was piss off conservatives, which seems to happen every time he opens his mouth.

There were lots of things surrounding that incident and the trial and aftermath that were unnecessary and inflammatory. I think Obama's comments were pretty far down on the list.
I think the "focus on one issue" is cheaper than looking for many.

The TV "News" agencies are in it for profit, after all.
 
Now it's the "I didn't say that" game. You guys are so predictable.

I must have been reading a different thread where the whole point was how horribly persecuted white people are.

Who are "you guys"?
 
Now it's the "I didn't say that" game. You guys are so predictable.

I must have been reading a different thread where the whole point was how horribly persecuted white people are.

You must have been. Because this is about the obvious yellow journalism that is today's news.
 
When the story first picked up steam about a month after the incident itself occurred, yes I had to do some serious googling. Remember the Trayvon thing happened and pretty much stayed a local news story for a couple weeks, then people were like outraged that it wasn't getting more press and then suddenly it did when the families hired lawyers and agents.

You don't remember the original reports of the purposefully edited 911 calls? You know, the ones intentionally edited to make it look racially motivated?
 
As with pretty much every story that gets saturation coverage, it's hard to argue with that point. I agree. I dunno if it was "Missing Malaysian Airliner on CNN" bad, but it was bad. Unfortunately, too many media outlets (CNN being the prime offender) tend to find one hot-button story and simply beat it to a bloody pulp.



"Inflamed" what? From what I can tell, the only thing Obama's comments did was piss off conservatives, which seems to happen every time he opens his mouth.

There were lots of things surrounding that incident and the trial and aftermath that were unnecessary and inflammatory. I think Obama's comments were pretty far down on the list.

Regarding CNN and the missing jet, I agree that one was beat to death. The only slack I'll cut CNN (and the others which were also too focused on it) is that it involved a lot of people (and their deaths), and it isn't something that happens every day. Planes don't just disappear. It was very Amelia Earhartesque. Trayvon Martin - a black guy shot by a Hispanic guy. That probably happens every 2 days in Gary, Indiana.

Obama's comments implied that Zimmerman profiled Martin and followed him because he was black. As I said earlier, nobody knows if that's a true assumption or not. Obama should know better than that. That only inflamed people who declared Zimmerman a racist profiler, in my opinion.
 
*Looks at thread title*
"Nope"
*Looks at posts on first page*
"Goddammit, I feel like I should have heard of him"
 
That was a big case that had ramifications on a stand your ground law. Not just a simple robbery.

You heard of Trayvon, though didn't you? That's wasn't in your area either.
 
You must have been. Because this is about the obvious yellow journalism that is today's news.

This from the person who said that nobody cares if a white person dies. Now you're trying to make it not about that. What a hoot.
 
There seems to be no disagreement regarding the teen's guilt in murdering Trapuzzano, so I'm not seeing the parallel between this incident and Martin/Zimmerman.
 
So unarmed guy gets robbed and killed...killer in jail

Unarmed guy gets killed in altercation...killer not in jail.

That seems to make the two event s almost nothing alike.
 
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