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Thread: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Morality exists independently of the government. The government should prohibit immoral actions which cause harm to others (and I do not mean that in a strictly materialist way).

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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    I suspect we're not all talking about the same thing when we use the words "morals" or "morality". That said, a government is made up of people. Ours, as a representative government, is especially so. It doesn't really decide right and wrong independently of the people in it, and they come from the same culture (more or less) as the rest of us. A government like ours exists only to do the will of the people. That includes issues related to what some might call morality.

    Let's ignore the sexual issues for the moment. It is our determination as a culture that a creative person is morally entitled to compensation, moreso than people are morally entitled to experience all the art, music, technology, and culture created. Thus, we have copyrights and patents. That's just as much a moral determination as any.

    Our government reflects our views, but it can also be used to help shape some of those views. Racism is far less acceptable today than it was even in 1970. The law changed to reflect what was a growing value for racial equality, and those laws have helped push that value into an increasingly stronger position. It is a positive feedback loop, though it can be used for good or for ill.
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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    No, it is not the government's job to force morality. If no one is doing me harm, I have no right to use coercion and violence against them. Just because I disagree with them, or find their actions weird, does not give me the right to throw them in a cage or hire someone else (the government) to do it for me.
    Morality is regulated every single day from a Libertarian perspective even if the actions aren't necessarily hurting someone. We don't allow kids to engage in animal sacrifice or allow kids to bring guns to the classroom. We don't allow 10 year old kids to buy cigarettes even if the sale of the product isn't hurting them. Laws are not dependent on whether your actions are hurting someone, they are dependent on what is best to keep a well working society - and that goes for pretty much every system of governance. The degree to which morality should be regulated is what is in question. Which leads to the question of: What moral system should we use to regulate it? Should we regulate immoral behavior if it doesn't hurt people? Should we regulate immoral behavior if it hurts people? Should we not regulate moral behavior even if it hurts people? Should we regulate moral behavior if it doesn't hurt people? Don't get me wrong: Immoral and moral behavior are not the standards that should be used to determine whether something should be regulated or not regulated because what is moral and immoral are subjective. However, they can certainly be used in regulating that which is beneficial and that which isn't beneficial to society and that definitely should be regulated.
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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Some aspects of morality, yes. Like not being able to legally murder, keep substances bad for society and individuals (drugs) illegal and punishing fraud and not upholding contracts. Almost any law can be traced back to an aspect of morality or a moral reason.
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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    How can we regulate all that is moral or immoral? What is moral? What is immoral? I would suggest getting a book on ethics because even after reading one you won't know the answer.
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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    You want to stay on topic or should I pull up the Democrat's Jim Crow Laws. The pointt is both parties try to do it at certain points in history. Doesn't make it right.
    I am on topic, you're the one that wishes to change your own thread. Go ahead, pull the Jim Crow card, you probably wanted to make this a black/white issue anyways.

    This is the perfect example of government intrusions into people's (especially women's) private lives, vaginal probes, but republicans reworded the law in Wisconsin to make it sound like they're not intruding...

    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/...nal-probe.html

    Now, what were you saying about the topic?
    Last edited by AJiveMan; 04-14-14 at 05:27 AM.

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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up with a discussion with Tigger. Do you guys think it is the job of the government to judge,decide,regulate the morality of the people or that the job of the people and the laws of the government should reflect that?
    It should enforce some morality and "promote" other aspects. It's in the United States' best interest to foster a culture of civic duty and republican responsibility.
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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up with a discussion with Tigger. Do you guys think it is the job of the government to judge,decide,regulate the morality of the people or that the job of the people and the laws of the government should reflect that?
    It is the job of the People/Society UNTIL or UNLESS they choose to regulate Morality improperly OR not to enforce it at all (which is what American Society does now). At the point that the People/Society no longer undertake that responsibility, it is the role of the Government to step in and pick up the slack, enforcing proper Morals BY WHATEVER MEANS ARE NECESSARY.

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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Fair enough.

    What about victimful crimes? Shouldn't the government protect me from these immoral acts such as rape, murder or assault? These are morals that should be legislated.

    That's why I voted yes. The only purpose of government is to enforce morality. That's the only reason that government exists.
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    Re: Is it the government's job to regulate Morality

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I am on topic, you're the one that wishes to change your own thread. Go ahead, pull the Jim Crow card, you probably wanted to make this a black/white issue anyways.

    This is the perfect example of government intrusions into people's (especially women's) private lives, vaginal probes, but republicans reworded the law in Wisconsin to make it sound like they're not intruding...

    Busted: Republicans

    Now, what were you saying about the topic?

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