THe government shouldnt have ANYTHING to do with morals as far as enforcement, now some morals of some people may happen to match up wit laws and rights but thats all that is
as for people, this is also a big fat no. Peoples morals are for them. AGain yes some of the peoples morals match and some of those are reflected in government but again thats all it is, coincidence.
The reason why morals (in a absolutle sense) should never be enforced by goverment nor should people put it into government is because moral are subjective and the would negate the point of freedom.
The first question would be whos morals?
why theirs? why not yours or mine?
If it is ours, why?
What about all the people with different morals?
etc etc etc.
Now dont get me wrong, morals are gonna have an impact and they are gonna play a role but thats not the mind set that should be used.
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
Either a fetus is a person in all cases, or it's a person in no cases.
Our justice system can't even decide.
I'm a woman, by the way, and your post doesn't appear to recognize that. I'm not judging anyone. I said I support a woman's choice to abort her fetus if she choses. I also think if she choses to do so, she should understand what she's doing. And I would appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. I not only never said, I never even implied "They deserved it for being irresponsible." You are usually a very fair poster. That was rude and out of line.
I think law is fundamentally underpinned by rooting out immorality especially where the subject has almost universal agreement. Good examples are those wrongdoings that we see in ancient texts and still have today (e.g. against murder, theft, fraud, etc.). I think there are some moral discussions that people need to debate and deal with at their local levels but which do not belong in national governments. A good example is charity. Charity (helping the needy) is universally considered "good," but that doesn't mean it belongs in federal law.
In short, I would say government's job is to enforce laws, and laws should be focused on regulating immoral behavior (e.g. harm) rather than forcing morally good behavior (e.g. helping the needy).
Last edited by Neomalthusian; 04-14-14 at 09:39 PM.
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