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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    I have voted for Republicans in the past, but those were the Republicans who knew how to compromise and work with Democrats to get legislation passed and the nations interests progressed. The Tea Party candidates seem to stand for getting nothing accomplished and value gridlock over compromise. The Congress has never been perfect, but the way it has functioned since the Tea Party has arrived, which is basically non-functional, is a travesty. In addition, Paul wants to lower the US's involvement in the international community and this I cannot agree with, as I find it extremely dangerous.

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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    At this point, absolutley I'd be willing to vote for Rand
    You know he's a R.I.N.O. don't you?

    He's not a true republican, he is a teabagger.

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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    My state of Michigan has an open primary and I would be thrilled to no end to vote for Paul for the GOP nomination in 2016 should that eventually happen. If I can play even a small part in a 2016 Democratic landslide that makes even Goldwater in 64 look minor by comparison I would be very very happy.
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Look around Nimby, it's not the 1960's anymore. People (some) in the GOP and Rand Paul are still stuck in the 60's and earlier by their thoughts and speech, they've not evolved, yet. I'd give the GOP leg humpers another 20 to 30 years before they come around out of the Neanderthal age.
    Rand Paul and his wing aren't the only GOPs that have reverse evolved in Civil Rights and most especially Voting Rights. The USSC decision itself turned back the clocks of time on a VRA once reupped 98-0 in the Senate. Voter limitation laws in WI, OH, NC and the rest will be a huge factor this year .
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    You know he's a R.I.N.O. don't you?
    I think RINO is one of the most asinine terms in our political speech today, as if there's unquestionably one specific mold of Republican and any divergence outside of that neatly defined mold...REGARDLESS of whether it's an ideological divergence or simply a policy divergence...suggest they're something out.

    Even if he was a "RINO", you mistakenly assume that I vote for people based singularly off their party and not on myraid of reasons from ideological views, level of pragmatism, policy views, experience, trust, etc.

    He's not a true republican, he is a teabagger.
    Oh look, another of the asinine words used in political discourse today. Yes, Rand Paul has a Tea Partier mindset on many issues and a libertarian mindset on some issues as well. That's not a negative in my mind. Using 3rd grader level debate by using childish names for the opposition and utilizing cherry picked signage that has no actual tangible purpose in an honest debate and is simply there to belittle and mock a large swatch of people based on the actions of a singular individual hardly changes my views on that.

    I can go back to the run up of 2008 I believe where I was suggesting that I'd be estatic to see a "Ron Paul-esque" candidate who was in a more charismatic shell and who tempered their views with a bit more realism and pragmatism than Ron did. Rand, in many ways, fits that bill.
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think RINO is one of the most asinine terms in our political speech today, as if there's unquestionably one specific mold of Republican and any divergence outside of that neatly defined mold...REGARDLESS of whether it's an ideological divergence or simply a policy divergence...suggest they're something out.

    Even if he was a "RINO", you mistakenly assume that I vote for people based singularly off their party and not on myraid of reasons from ideological views, level of pragmatism, policy views, experience, trust, etc.



    Oh look, another of the asinine words used in political discourse today. Yes, Rand Paul has a Tea Partier mindset on many issues and a libertarian mindset on some issues as well. That's not a negative in my mind. Using 3rd grader level debate by using childish names for the opposition and utilizing cherry picked signage that has no actual tangible purpose in an honest debate and is simply there to belittle and mock a large swatch of people based on the actions of a singular individual hardly changes my views on that.

    I can go back to the run up of 2008 I believe where I was suggesting that I'd be estatic to see a "Ron Paul-esque" candidate who was in a more charismatic shell and who tempered their views with a bit more realism and pragmatism than Ron did. Rand, in many ways, fits that bill.
    Paul, the latter, is not a true republican, once people understand that, they'll be better informed. In the truest sense of the word, he is a R.I.N.O. because he doesn't have views consistent with the republican party, his views are more to the right of most republicans, more extremist.

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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Of course! Ron Paul 2012!
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    I'll wait until the Illinois primary before making that decision.
    Rand Paul is clearly the "alternative" choice in the GOP to the Elite/Neo-Con governors who were invited to the Adelson primary.
    Adelson clearly runs the GOP at this moment and wants a governor to run against Mrs. Clinton .
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My state of Michigan has an open primary and I would be thrilled to no end to vote for Paul for the GOP nomination in 2016 should that eventually happen. If I can play even a small part in a 2016 Democratic landslide that makes even Goldwater in 64 look minor by comparison I would be very very happy.
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Paul, the latter, is not a true republican, once people understand that, they'll be better informed. In the truest sense of the word, he is a R.I.N.O. because he doesn't have views consistent with the republican party, his views are more to the right of most republicans, more extremist.
    I have never seen anyone refer to someone as a "RINO" because they are too economically rightist.

    While it's a term with little meaning enough as is, and frequently misapplied, you are applying it in a manner entirely opposite to its usage.

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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Even if he was a "RINO", you mistakenly assume that I vote for people based singularly off their party and not on myraid of reasons from ideological views, level of pragmatism, policy views, experience, trust, etc.
    The latest from the right-wing in denying which party they are and who they vote for.
    This started with the GOP during Bush-43's 2nd term when GOP candidates stopped using the word "Republican" on their placards.
    And started using BLUE as the color of their placards, those tricky dickies.



    Oh look, another of the asinine words used in political discourse today.
    Invented by the asinine teabaggers themselves, with teabags hanging from their hats .
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