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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for admitting all that. But the one issue which will simply kill him and all the ticket under him is when he steps up to explain his opposition to civil rights laws. America will simply not stand for that and he will quickly and accurately be tagged as a type of racist who is simply fifty years out of time. And that will destroy him and his ticket.

    Which is why he will never get the GOP nomination no matter how much I would like to see him imitate the captain of the TITANIC.
    I also don't believe he will receive the GOP nomination, at least anytime soon.

    The CRA comment will definitely draw continued attention and criticism. It was a dumb comment to make because such an opinion on such a sensitive topic can be easily misinterpreted. Of course, every politician makes at least one dumb comment, and most (like Paul) are able to carry on.
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I also don't believe he will receive the GOP nomination, at least anytime soon.

    The CRA comment will definitely draw continued attention and criticism. It was a dumb comment to make because such an opinion on such a sensitive topic can be easily misinterpreted. Of course, every politician makes at least one dumb comment, and most (like Paul) are able to carry on.
    Except that the Paul comment about civil rights laws would become front and center in his campaign starting the day after the convention selects him. Before I retired I gave political advice for a living (after my teaching career) and my advice to anybody running against Rand Paul would be to hammer that again and again and again day after day after day after day and paint him as a person badly out of time and very bad fit for 2016 America and its diverse population.

    Let him try the same nuanced arguments we have seen on the internet on sites just like this which pretty much boil down to 'yes my position sounds racist and is not liked by other races and would negatively impact other races besides white folks-but really folks and I am not a racist'. Let him try that in a national campaign with 15 second sound bites and see what it garners him besides the worlds largest headache until election day where he makes Barry Goldwater look like a winner by comparison.

    Again - I would love to see him as the nominee because it would sink his party all over the nation with the exception of a small handful of states. But we all know the people who run the GOP are simply not that stupid nor do they have a death wish.
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    You are being silly. Russia was not Snowden's first choice for asylum. He was unable to leave because the US govt would have picked him up immediately if he did. Ever heard that old expression, "between a rock and a hard place?"
    Between a rock and a hard place is where Rand Paul finds himself today after his 2009 comments on Cheney surfaced. All the usuals in the Conservative written press have trashed Paul, including saying that Paul has "deReaganized" himself. Those are GOP writers !
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    I will fully admit that from a political strategy stand point, due to the sound bite voting public we have in America today, that previous statements and views of Paul on civil rights would be a substantial hurdle to over come.

    It wouldn't cause ME to not vote for him, which was the question asked in this thread. However, it would make him a difficult candidate to win the general. It's not an impossible hurdle to over come, but it absolutely would be a difficult one.

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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Except that the Paul comment about civil rights laws would become front and center in his campaign starting the day after the convention selects him. Before I retired I gave political advice for a living (after my teaching career) and my advice to anybody running against Rand Paul would be to hammer that again and again and again day after day after day after day and paint him as a person badly out of time and very bad fit for 2016 America and its diverse population.

    Let him try the same nuanced arguments we have seen on the internet on sites just like this which pretty much boil down to 'yes my position sounds racist and is not liked by other races and would negatively impact other races besides white folks-but really folks and I am not a racist'. Let him try that in a national campaign with 15 second sound bites and see what it garners him besides the worlds largest headache until election day where he makes Barry Goldwater look like a winner by comparison.

    Again - I would love to see him as the nominee because it would sink his party all over the nation with the exception of a small handful of states. But we all know the people who run the GOP are simply not that stupid nor do they have a death wish.
    I agree. I think the only way he could possibly have a prayer for the nomination is if he stated simply and sincerely, "I was wrong."
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    Re: Would you vote for Rand Paul?

    I think today a lot of people think more worse about Rand Paul.

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