View Poll Results: Should a politicians personal life be taken into account?

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  • Yes, a politician's personal life reveals important things about their ability to lead

    13 33.33%
  • Yes, but it should only be weighed as one of many factors

    18 46.15%
  • It depends entirely on the individual transgression

    15 38.46%
  • No, those things might say something about the man, but not necessarily how effective he is.

    7 17.95%
  • No, what matters are results

    4 10.26%
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Thread: Should Personal Lives Matter?

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    Should Personal Lives Matter?

    I was listening to NPR today at work and an interview came on that I thought was very interesting.

    Here's what's going on:


    The gist of it is, this guy, Narendra Modi, is running for prime minister in India with the persuasive platform that because he is living the bachelor life, he will have more time and ability to devote himself to the job. It turns out he actually still has a wife, although he contends that the marriage was loveless and purely a business relationship, which based on the limited evidence presented, seems reasonably likely to be true. What really got me thinking was when the interviewer was speaking with a supporter of Modi, and asking her about how this recent revelation might affect his chances or anyone's opinion of him.

    I can't find the transcript of the interview, but basically she was saying, 'why would his personal life matter when we have so many other problems at hand?' The interviewer countered with something like, 'well, shouldn't it matter?'

    And that's the question, should it matter?

    It seems to me that when these politicians get busted in the US, your anthony weiners, your john edwardssss, your kissing congressmen etc. they aren't kicked out because they're bad politicians (partisan feelings aside) but simply because of a misstep in their personal lives. I'd also point out that there are probably plenty of politicians, good and bad, that probably did these things and got away with it. Look at Thomas Jefferson and all his slave babies.
    And, I think with the advent of social media these kinds of things will only become more prevalent when the younger people start getting into office and the things they put on facebook/twitter/DP fourms ten years ago will come back to haunt them.

    Bill Clinton was president during one of the most prosperous times in US history, and he was almost removed from office for getting a BJ. The current president of France, Francois Hollande is in the middle of some serious soap opera business right now as well, yet few french consider that something revealing about his effectiveness. Do Americans put too much stock into it, assuming that it is some non-criminal aspect of their personal lives?
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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    I was listening to NPR today at work and an interview came on that I thought was very interesting.

    Here's what's going on:


    The gist of it is, this guy, Narendra Modi, is running for prime minister in India with the persuasive platform that because he is living the bachelor life, he will have more time and ability to devote himself to the job. It turns out he actually still has a wife, although he contends that the marriage was loveless and purely a business relationship, which based on the limited evidence presented, seems reasonably likely to be true. What really got me thinking was when the interviewer was speaking with a supporter of Modi, and asking her about how this recent revelation might affect his chances or anyone's opinion of him.

    I can't find the transcript of the interview, but basically she was saying, 'why would his personal life matter when we have so many other problems at hand?' The interviewer countered with something like, 'well, shouldn't it matter?'

    And that's the question, should it matter?

    It seems to me that when these politicians get busted in the US, your anthony weiners, your john edwardssss, your kissing congressmen etc. they aren't kicked out because they're bad politicians (partisan feelings aside) but simply because of a misstep in their personal lives. I'd also point out that there are probably plenty of politicians, good and bad, that probably did these things and got away with it. Look at Thomas Jefferson and all his slave babies.
    And, I think with the advent of social media these kinds of things will only become more prevalent when the younger people start getting into office and the things they put on facebook/twitter/DP fourms ten years ago will come back to haunt them.

    Bill Clinton was president during one of the most prosperous times in US history, and he was almost removed from office for getting a BJ. The current president of France, Francois Hollande is in the middle of some serious soap opera business right now as well, yet few french consider that something revealing about his effectiveness. Do Americans put too much stock into it, assuming that it is some non-criminal aspect of their personal lives?
    Maybe. I suppose it is what one thinks is relevant. It didn't bother me if Clinton got a BJ in the White House. What did was his lack of taste when one considers JFK was laying Marilyn Monroe and the best Billy Boy can do is Monica. FDR was a womanizer too, you can throw LBJ into that category.

    But I think it has to do with how politics or political campaigns are run now a days. Both sides try to dig up as much dirt as possible and then throw mud at each other. Ideas, solutions, visions mean little to nothing. It is what happen when candidate A was twelve years old and lit up a joint.
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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    It depends. If someone is against doing something and then does it themselves, yes it should matter.

    For instance if a politicians is caught cheating on their spouse I think that normally is just between them and their spouse, however, if the politicians rallies and spouts against cheating on spouses and then does it themselves they should be held accountable.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Behavior in personal life can indicate potential issues if given power.
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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Integrity is an important value in a person. So is a person's morals. If a person is a piece of **** who lies to his or her spouse then why would you trust them to be honest with you? If they don't respect a person that they love enough to not screw that person over, why would you you trust them not to screw you over? If they put their own needs above that of their family why would you trust them to put the needs of the country over their personal desires? These things matter because it shows the character of the person. The person we are entrusting to lead our country.


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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    I was listening to NPR today at work and an interview came on that I thought was very interesting.

    Here's what's going on:


    The gist of it is, this guy, Narendra Modi, is running for prime minister in India with the persuasive platform that because he is living the bachelor life, he will have more time and ability to devote himself to the job. It turns out he actually still has a wife, although he contends that the marriage was loveless and purely a business relationship, which based on the limited evidence presented, seems reasonably likely to be true. What really got me thinking was when the interviewer was speaking with a supporter of Modi, and asking her about how this recent revelation might affect his chances or anyone's opinion of him.

    I can't find the transcript of the interview, but basically she was saying, 'why would his personal life matter when we have so many other problems at hand?' The interviewer countered with something like, 'well, shouldn't it matter?'

    And that's the question, should it matter?

    It seems to me that when these politicians get busted in the US, your anthony weiners, your john edwardssss, your kissing congressmen etc. they aren't kicked out because they're bad politicians (partisan feelings aside) but simply because of a misstep in their personal lives. I'd also point out that there are probably plenty of politicians, good and bad, that probably did these things and got away with it. Look at Thomas Jefferson and all his slave babies.
    And, I think with the advent of social media these kinds of things will only become more prevalent when the younger people start getting into office and the things they put on facebook/twitter/DP fourms ten years ago will come back to haunt them.

    Bill Clinton was president during one of the most prosperous times in US history, and he was almost removed from office for getting a BJ. The current president of France, Francois Hollande is in the middle of some serious soap opera business right now as well, yet few french consider that something revealing about his effectiveness. Do Americans put too much stock into it, assuming that it is some non-criminal aspect of their personal lives?
    Unfortunately...Christian ethics underlie American morality, leading to powerful hypocrisy.

    There are some aspects of personal conduct that can indicate corruption in an individual....sex life is not one of them.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Would you hire a babysitter known for child molestation?
    Would you hire a cashier known for stealing money?
    Would you hire a roofer known for bailing on the job before it was finished?

    What a person does in their personal life is the de facto #1 qualifying/disqualifying measurement in terms of hiring. It's that way because people bring their personal life to work because work and life is inseparable. I do not understand if that's not a requirement voting aged people use when considering an elected official.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

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    Would you hire a babysitter known for child molestation?
    No but that would directly be related to the work.

    Would you hire a cashier known for stealing money?
    again directly related to the job

    Would you hire a roofer known for bailing on the job before it was finished?
    And here this is job related, you know not doing what they were hired for.

    What a person does in their personal life is the de facto #1 qualifying/disqualifying measurement in terms of hiring.
    Why? If I am hiring a plumber, why should I care if he is, I don't know, a furry? That is his personal life and doesn't change the fact that he can work on my pipes. Now if he showed up in costume that would be different.

    It's that way because people bring their personal life to work because work and life is inseparable.
    Not everyone....note the above furry

    I do not understand if that's not a requirement voting aged people use when considering an elected official.
    Well because I think you might be too judgement. But then you can be consistent and call for the resignation of people who don't live up to the standards they set. There are many Republicans in that boat.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Would you hire a babysitter known for child molestation?
    Would you hire a cashier known for stealing money?
    Would you hire a roofer known for bailing on the job before it was finished?

    What a person does in their personal life is the de facto #1 qualifying/disqualifying measurement in terms of hiring. It's that way because people bring their personal life to work because work and life is inseparable. I do not understand if that's not a requirement voting aged people use when considering an elected official.
    I doubt very much you have even the slightest idea what the details of an individuals life entail.....yet you vote for them anyway.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Behavior in personal life can indicate potential issues if given power.
    Can you think of a good example where this has proved to be the case? Can you think of a politician who behaved badly in his private life and then behaved similarly poorly in his (it's usually male) professional life? I'm sure such examples must exist, I just can't think of one.
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