View Poll Results: Should a politicians personal life be taken into account?

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  • Yes, a politician's personal life reveals important things about their ability to lead

    13 33.33%
  • Yes, but it should only be weighed as one of many factors

    18 46.15%
  • It depends entirely on the individual transgression

    15 38.46%
  • No, those things might say something about the man, but not necessarily how effective he is.

    7 17.95%
  • No, what matters are results

    4 10.26%
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Thread: Should Personal Lives Matter?

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    Bill Clinton was president during one of the most prosperous times in US history, and he was almost removed from office for getting a BJ
    You need to get your facts straight. Adultery was not one of the charges against him.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    "...almost removed from office for getting a BJ" is just supporters refusing to accept reality and trying to spin and minimize his impeachment by making it sound as petty as possible.

    Now, don't get me wrong, to be honest I do feel that the whole line of events that led up to it were indeed petty, but the simple undeniable fact remains that he was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. Sorry, Clinton supporters, it just is. If he hadn't broken the law by lying, he never would have been impeached.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    I was listening to NPR today at work and an interview came on that I thought was very interesting.

    Here's what's going on:


    The gist of it is, this guy, Narendra Modi, is running for prime minister in India with the persuasive platform that because he is living the bachelor life, he will have more time and ability to devote himself to the job. It turns out he actually still has a wife, although he contends that the marriage was loveless and purely a business relationship, which based on the limited evidence presented, seems reasonably likely to be true. What really got me thinking was when the interviewer was speaking with a supporter of Modi, and asking her about how this recent revelation might affect his chances or anyone's opinion of him.

    I can't find the transcript of the interview, but basically she was saying, 'why would his personal life matter when we have so many other problems at hand?' The interviewer countered with something like, 'well, shouldn't it matter?'

    And that's the question, should it matter?

    It seems to me that when these politicians get busted in the US, your anthony weiners, your john edwardssss, your kissing congressmen etc. they aren't kicked out because they're bad politicians (partisan feelings aside) but simply because of a misstep in their personal lives. I'd also point out that there are probably plenty of politicians, good and bad, that probably did these things and got away with it. Look at Thomas Jefferson and all his slave babies.
    And, I think with the advent of social media these kinds of things will only become more prevalent when the younger people start getting into office and the things they put on facebook/twitter/DP fourms ten years ago will come back to haunt them.

    Bill Clinton was president during one of the most prosperous times in US history, and he was almost removed from office for getting a BJ. The current president of France, Francois Hollande is in the middle of some serious soap opera business right now as well, yet few french consider that something revealing about his effectiveness. Do Americans put too much stock into it, assuming that it is some non-criminal aspect of their personal lives?
    I think all five of your choices are good answers. I voted for all five. People can use any measurement that they want to in order to choose their elected officials. They can use any method and they can use it fairly or unfairly. Politics isn't child play. When you run for office, you are opening yourself up to all kinds of scrutiny. Some of it fair. Some of it unfair.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Apologies, post should read, "Bill Clinton was president during one of the most prosperous times in US history, and he was almost removed from office for lying about getting a BJ"
    Haha. Panty Hawk. I would watch that show.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    And that's the question, should it matter?
    Yes and no. If his personal life starts interfering with his duties then yes, it matters. Otherwise it doesn't matter.
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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    Bill Clinton was president during one of the most prosperous times in US history, and he was almost removed from office for getting a BJ.
    That is total bullcrap.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    That is total bullcrap.
    Well... lying about it under oath. But like all serious impeachment proceedings, they are not fueled with the interest of justice, but rather partisanship.
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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well... lying about it under oath. But like all serious impeachment proceedings, they are not fueled with the interest of justice, but rather partisanship.
    He committed perjury in a sexual harassment lawsuit. And was disbarred for doing so.

    He was not impeached for getting a blowjob.

    That is just the way the Dems likes to spin it. But of course all non-idiots know that they are evil liars.

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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    He committed perjury in a sexual harassment lawsuit. And was disbarred for doing so.

    He was not impeached for getting a blowjob.

    That is just the way the Dems likes to spin it. But of course all non-idiots know that they are evil liars.
    And if I remember correctly, all offending material centered on his relationship with Lewinsky, not Jones.
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    Re: Should Personal Lives Matter?

    It depends on the individual and the situation. In general, I'd say no.

    But then you have our 'public servants' lying to their wives and political staff, telling them they are 'going hiking,' and ending up in South America with their 'girlfriends.'

    Totally not doing their jobs, so absorbed with their dicks they completely drop their responsibilities.

    The best example of someone who will NOT do the job is Anthony Weiner. It all unfolded over a matter of years...the man *could not stop* even to save his family or his job. So he 'attempts' a comeback and a run at governor (was it governor?) of NY....and STILL was caught popping his penis all over the Internet. He "could not stop".

    Do you think that a man like that, with everything to lose...and still cant stop...isnt going to be all over the Internet everyday instead of doing his job for the people? He has no self-control even when the stakes are about as high as they can go. He will not stop once he gets the job....he will be distracted and wasting your $$ and doing nothing.

    So again, it really depends.
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