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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do such policies put the US on a collision course with the rest of the world? Naturally everyone will not feel the way we do on certain issues and thus there will be challenges to US leadership.

    Are the neocons therefore a threat to world peace?
    From Merriam Websters.
    1: a former liberal espousing political conservatism
    2: a conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and United States national interest in international affairs including through military means
    I don't think so. The law of the land since 2001, passed almost unanimously by Congress states that the President must act to protect the US. Wilson, FDR, Truman, and Kennedy were all "neo-cons" who wanted those objectives. Obama intervened in Libya and wanted to intervene in Syria. In addition, he greatly expanded the role in Afghanistan. The stated goal in all those cases was to make the world safe or save the world from tyranny. Not bad goals if properly managed.

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I need to think about that. My reservation is that right off hand I don't think the powers involved envisioned a cooperative rise for all. Rather I think they were attempts to contain rivals, and there is a subtle difference. Perhaps you could elaborate.
    I do not wish to speak for Fiddytree, but as I am like-minded, I will take a stab at it. During the 18th and 19th centuries, the powers of Europe cooperated to maintain a balance of power in order to maintain what could be described as close to world peace as possible. That is not to say there were not wars, but no single super-power was allowed to rise, as it was feared such a situation would be the ruin of Europe, as one nation would gain the capability to force their will on the rest of the continent.

    China and Russia formed the Shanghai Cooperation Organization to achieve a balancing force against the US and it's global hegemony.

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    They are are a threat to world peace, a threat to the United States of America, a threat to humanity.

    Die Neocon DIE!!!
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Prominent neocon Paul Wolfowitz is famous for the following policy objectives for the US



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    Here it is clearly stated that the most important goal is to contain Russia. Furthermore the goal is to prevent any challenge to the leadership role of the US on the global stage.

    Do such policies put the US on a collision course with the rest of the world? Naturally everyone will not feel the way we do on certain issues and thus there will be challenges to US leadership.

    Are the neocons therefore a threat to world peace?
    Anyone could be a threat to world peace. Virtually any and all philosophies or political views can be contested or defended violently making any view point a somewhat potential threat to world peace.

    On the other hand Wolfowitz merely states some proposed policy objectives while others go out and actively shatter world peace.

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    So the question should really be who is the greater threat?

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Prominent neocon Paul Wolfowitz is famous for the following policy objectives for the US



    And



    Here it is clearly stated that the most important goal is to contain Russia. Furthermore the goal is to prevent any challenge to the leadership role of the US on the global stage.

    Do such policies put the US on a collision course with the rest of the world? Naturally everyone will not feel the way we do on certain issues and thus there will be challenges to US leadership.

    Are the neocons therefore a threat to world peace?
    I say yes.One only has to tune in to FOX or some of the radio talk show hosts to see this is true. The gist of what they are saying is "Obama is a bitch, Putin just punked Obama, Obama should make Putin pay, Obama made us look weak" and how dare he talk about something like minimum wage wage equality for women instead of talking about Ukraine. These pieces of **** neocons who are directly pushing for military action or pushing Russia into attacking the US by antagonizing Russia should ask themselves do they really want Obama in charge of the military?"
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    So you get to trash Obama and Neo-Cons in the GOP in the same paragraph?!
    I'm sure Rand Paul is taking notes with his thrashing of lead Neo-Con Dick-less Cheeney .
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say yes.One only has to tune in to FOX or some of the radio talk show hosts to see this is true. The gist of what they are saying is "Obama is a bitch, Putin just punked Obama, Obama should make Putin pay, Obama made us look weak" and how dare he talk about something like minimum wage wage equality for women instead of talking about Ukraine. These pieces of **** neocons who are directly pushing for military action or pushing Russia into attacking the US by antagonizing Russia should ask themselves do they really want Obama in charge of the military?"
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    You mean Cheney and Bush and Rumsfeld and C. Rice, correct ?
    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    They are are a threat to world peace, a threat to the United States of America, a threat to humanity.

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    They are are a threat to world peace, a threat to the United States of America, a threat to humanity.

    Die Neocon DIE!!!

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say yes.One only has to tune in to FOX or some of the radio talk show hosts to see this is true. The gist of what they are saying is "Obama is a bitch, Putin just punked Obama, Obama should make Putin pay, Obama made us look weak" and how dare he talk about something like minimum wage wage equality for women instead of talking about Ukraine. These pieces of **** neocons who are directly pushing for military action or pushing Russia into attacking the US by antagonizing Russia should ask themselves do they really want Obama in charge of the military?"
    You are mistaken. The neocons do not want Obama to act. They want to point out that he is not acting.

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    As with Lybia, Neo-Cons will say Obama did not do enough.
    Isolationist/TEAs will say he did too much.
    These are the two parties Obama is dealing with, chirping from both ends giving aid and comfort to Putie .
    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    You are mistaken. The neocons do not want Obama to act. They want to point out that he is not acting.
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