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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Actually it sounds like a race of evil race of war mongering robots from another planet.



    Glutenus Maximus Holius Prime, the Neocon!!! His mission is to instigate fighting amongst humans in order to soften them up for the imminent Neocon invasion!!!!
    Straight out of Thriller's world!

    Plus "to con" does it not mean to deceive? In such a case it sounds as if this is the new age con artists party. Why would not one want to vote for them?

    The acronym GOP sounds a lot better.
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Well yes, but the greatest threat to "world peace" (an abstraction) is the monopoly of legitimate use of violence
    "The trust of the innocent is the liar's most useful tool." : Stephen King

    "Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Straight out of Thriller's world!

    Plus "to con" does it not mean to deceive? In such a case it sounds as if this is the new age con artists party. Why would not one want to vote for them?

    The acronym GOP sounds a lot better.
    Neo Con Artist:"Hey buddy, Saddam is about to attack with WMDs. You wouldn't want a mushroom cloud now would you?"

    Voter:"Oh my god! That's awful!"

    Neo Con Artist:"Yeah Colin Powell was just on TV."

    Voter:"Oh no! What are we going to do?"

    Neo Con Artist:"Don't worry, just vote for me and I'll take care of everything."

    Voter:"Ok, I'll do anything to be safe."

    A couple of years later...........

    Voter:"Hey, Saddam didn't have any WMDs."

    Neo Con Artist:"Ha Ha! Too late sucker!"


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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    Well yes, but the greatest threat to "world peace" (an abstraction) is the monopoly of legitimate use of violence
    The problem with neocons is that they think that they have the right to determine of what is the legitimate use of violence. Anyone who does not agree with that notion is a threat that must be preempted.

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The problem is that your statements that



    and



    would have us believe that people who foment protest bear no responsibility and that people are merely doing what they want to do. Over and above that to make a statement like: "the boy threw the ball because he wanted to throw it," is meaningless. In that case we are not given any sort of insight as to why he wanted to throw it in the first place. He may have thrown the ball because someone had a gun pointed to his head and threatened to kill him if he didn't. To see why this is important, let's suppose that someone is on trial for setting fire to a building. However, if in fact the person set the fire because someone had a gun to his head and threatened to kill him if he didn't, he would be treated much differently than someone who did it because they had some sort of ax to grind.



    Yes you fabricated a fairy tale because you said that it was drawn mostly along ethnic lines. If the ethnic composition is 17 percent Russian and 78 percent Ukrainian, as you have stated, then obviously there must be a substantial portion of the Ukrainian section that is in favor of the customs union.

    If you don't believe the poll, can you point to some objective evidence that demonstrates it's fault? Or is it that you simply don't want to believe it? Not only that, but how do you know what the ethnic composition of Ukraine is in the first place? Did you go there and count?
    The arsonist-under-duress comparison doesn't work when the difference in agency between a man threatening the arsonist with the gun and a U.S. official saying something about how Kiev's relationship with Moscow won't get in the way of the self-determination of the Ukrainian people. Most of the political mobilization and organizational effort is occurring at a grassroots level.

    The grassroots level of politics is what fundamentally makes a group of people a country instead of a bunch of disassociated individuals.

    Polls are skewed by the sample, the way the question is asked, and who cared enough to respond. Historical polls have generally shown greater favor for the EU.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 04-25-14 at 04:54 PM.
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