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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Was there world peace prior to the emergence of the neo-con movement in the 60's?
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Was there world peace prior to the emergence of the neo-con movement in the 60's?
    Was there world peace before nazis came along? Did the existence of nazis make the world more or less peaceful?

    You didn't really answer the question. Of course there has never been world peace, but neo-cons are causing more violence and bloodshed and less peace.
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No, they would be implementing foreign policy that would make it more likely that Iran would want nukes for self defense to insure the survival of their regime. Under their doctrine of pre-emption, they would unnecessarily invade Iraq resulting in the bombing of innocent people that creates more terrorists. It's like that.
    Instead they bomb Israel through a proxy.
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Was there world peace before nazis came along? Did the existence of nazis make the world more or less peaceful?

    You didn't really answer the question. Of course there has never been world peace, but neo-cons are causing more violence and bloodshed and less peace.
    Do you have a link to statistics that show that and secondarily that it was the Neo-Cons' actions that made it worse?

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Prominent neocon Paul Wolfowitz is famous for the following policy objectives for the US

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    Here it is clearly stated that the most important goal is to contain Russia. Furthermore the goal is to prevent any challenge to the leadership role of the US on the global stage.

    Do such policies put the US on a collision course with the rest of the world? Naturally everyone will not feel the way we do on certain issues and thus there will be challenges to US leadership.

    Are the neocons therefore a threat to world peace?
    I don't really believe that the Neo-Cons were a danger, as they were operating in a period in which the US was the only entity capable of maintaining international security. At the same time the then administration was already implementing action to persuade allies and the UN to alter the foundations of international security, however. The most notable achievement was the incorporation of R2P in the UN Charter, which would probably like the switch away from free-riding by countries like Germany not have been possible without the Iraq imbroglio.

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Was there world peace before nazis came along? Did the existence of nazis make the world more or less peaceful?

    You didn't really answer the question. Of course there has never been world peace, but neo-cons are causing more violence and bloodshed and less peace.
    Can you say with any certainty that their would've been no regional conflicts without neo-con intervention? Do you believe allowing Soviet influence to expand unopposed would have lead to more or less world peace?
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Can you say with any certainty that their would've been no regional conflicts without neo-con intervention? Do you believe allowing Soviet influence to expand unopposed would have lead to more or less world peace?
    Of course there would still be conflicts, no one has claimed there wouldn't be. So you think waging war after war for American dominance and oil makes the world safer? How has American imperialistic behavior improved your safety down under?

    Now that I think about it, you Aussies have quite a bit of oil. I think you guys could use some good ol' fashioned American freedom. We should bomb and invade Australia, just to make sure you bitches don't rise up.

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    Do you have a link to statistics that show that and secondarily that it was the Neo-Cons' actions that made it worse?
    I'm not talking about statistics, I'm talking about the ideology that clearly and openly states "We Americans are exceptional, and we will bomb and invade anyone who gets in our way on the road to total and complete domination."

    That is an EXTREMELY violent mind set and is a major threat to world peace.
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Of course there would still be conflicts, no one has claimed there wouldn't be. So you think waging war after war for American dominance and oil makes the world safer? How has American imperialistic behavior improved your safety down under?

    Now that I think about it, you Aussies have quite a bit of oil. I think you guys could use some good ol' fashioned American freedom. We should bomb and invade Australia, just to make sure you bitches don't rise up.



    I'm not talking about statistics, I'm talking about the ideology that clearly and openly states "We Americans are exceptional, and we will bomb and invade anyone who gets in our way on the road to total and complete domination."

    That is an EXTREMELY violent mind set and is a major threat to world peace.
    A violent ideology that doesn't bring more conflict and war than others but causes the UN to adopt R2P is fine by me. If only we had a President that had followed up with more than red lines and options on the table, maybe we would be closer to a better global security structure.

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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Of course there would still be conflicts, no one has claimed there wouldn't be. So you think waging war after war for American dominance and oil makes the world safer? How has American imperialistic behavior improved your safety down under?
    We're talking world peace, not safety. Neo-con's opposed the expansion of the USSR, whilst there was much violence caused by that, unopposed Soviet expansion would've lead to another global conflict. Furthermore, neo-cons went out of power with GW Bush, yet America still goes to war. All neo-cons are interventionists, but not all interventionists are neo-cons.
    Now that I think about it, you Aussies have quite a bit of oil. I think you guys could use some good ol' fashioned American freedom. We should bomb and invade Australia, just to make sure you bitches don't rise up.
    That's interventionism, as we're already a close ally, it would be contrary to neo-con policy.
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    Re: Are Neocons A Threat to World Peace?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Instead they bomb Israel through a proxy.
    Israel has created the largest human prison in Palestine. They are the source of much of their difficulties.

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