View Poll Results: through which lens do you primarily view political groups?

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  • I tend to view them primarily through political parties

    1 4.17%
  • I tend to view them through cultural or social institutions

    0 0%
  • I tend to view them through one or more issue stances

    7 29.17%
  • I tend to view them through the lens of a formalized morality

    3 12.50%
  • I tend to view them through philosophical considerations

    8 33.33%
  • The best example of my ideology is a certain historical figure

    1 4.17%
  • the bext example of my ideology is a specific historical movement or group

    0 0%
  • I tend to use sociological or anthropological considerations

    2 8.33%
  • I go with my gut

    1 4.17%
  • I listen to a specific authority who is still alive and leading today

    1 4.17%
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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    Many people think it terms of teams\team loyalty, and their team is infallible simply because they have been accepted as a member, and all other teams are wrong completely.

    In addition to sports and politics, this applies to criminal gangs. From what little I've read of biker gangs, I gather it's typical behavior that if you fight with one member, you fight all members. The details of the argument weren't relevant.

    Others try to judge based on merit, using their own opinions as guide, and allow that "goodness" exists in all teams, to some extent.

    I tend to think this approach is better.

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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    I voted for the historical figure option, and that historical figure is Eugene Debs.


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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    None of the above options.

    I take the view that established political affiliation is informed by a broad historical dynamic signified by inertia. However, at a certain point, the quantitative will always become qualitative, so we have eddies that arise from the conflict between those currents that exist as ideological possibility, and those embodied by the prevailing subscription that manifests as institutions. Somewhere along the line, those afflicted with the 'Wing' delusion decide these eddies must be exclusive and inviolate. Moreover, their inability to recognise the cyclical component of historical dialogue only robs them still further of the clarity that could be theirs, were they to forego their accustomed egocentrism in favour of perspective. Given this precondition, they might finally aspire to become something other than figures of fun. As things must stand, the Wing-nuts will always stand aghast as the impermanence of propriety pulls out the rug from under their most cherished biases.

    Still, it's always good for a laugh and I'm as human as the next man.

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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    None of the above options.

    I take the view that established political affiliation is informed by a broad historical dynamic signified by inertia. However, at a certain point, the quantitative will always become qualitative, so we have eddies that arise from the conflict between those currents that exist as ideological possibility, and those embodied by the prevailing subscription that manifests as institutions. Somewhere along the line, those afflicted with the 'Wing' delusion decide these eddies must be exclusive and inviolate. Moreover, their inability to recognise the cyclical component of historical dialogue only robs them still further of the clarity that could be theirs, were they to forego their accustomed egocentrism in favour of perspective. Given this precondition, they might finally aspire to become something other than figures of fun. As things must stand, the Wing-nuts will always stand aghast as the impermanence of propriety pulls out the rug from under their most cherished biases.

    Still, it's always good for a laugh and I'm as human as the next man.
    Thank you Mr. Greenspan

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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Thank you Mr. Greenspan
    I'm straight, thanks anyway. Look, you're a great guy and all, but I'm afreud you're somewhat....well, unfeminine, quite frankly.

    Can we still be pen pals?

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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    I'm straight, thanks anyway. Look, you're a great guy and all, but I'm afreud you're somewhat....well, unfeminine, quite frankly.

    Can we still be pen pals?
    I was joking :P

    Alan Greenspan had a reputation for using hard to understand language.

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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I was joking :P
    It's cool. I didn't get the reference anyway.

    Edit: Ah! I see.

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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    Damn English.

    Impenetrable, I tellz ya.

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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    I'm not entirely certain what you are asking. I analyze and understand political groups through your first several options, but that's not necessarily the same as asking what do I look for in whether or not I will agree or disagree with a political group's (or organization's) ideas and statements.
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    Re: How do you view political groups?

    I evaluate them primarily on issue stances but recognize that those stances are usually influenced by cultural / religious beliefs. That is particularly the case with groups that are further from the center in their beliefs. I never go with my gut as I can't say I have ever had a "gut feeling" in my life. Underling political philosophies are worthless in terms of evaluating political groups as those philosophies are never consistent anyway.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

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