View Poll Results: Does it matter Millionaire - Billionaire?

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  • No, they're both too wealthy.

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  • Yes, it's a big difference.

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  • Don't care, got mine.

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Thread: The Wealth Gap

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    I'm not sure what the OP is asking so I'll answer my own questions.

    Does more money = more leverage? Yes

    Is that unfair? No

    Is it a problem even though it's fair? Yes. "Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty." - Ronald Reagan
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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Nobody should be allowed to have a billion dollars. We need an upper-upper tax bracket of 100%.
    Not really a Libertarian then are you.

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    That the real culprits in abusing, twisting, and destroying our economic systems is smaller than a whole percentage of the population is really immaterial. What the statistics in the OP demonstrate is that anyone who works for a living, who applies their skills to do something for our nation, for their community, for the people of this country, are getting screwed. The class that does nothing, but rather owns things, is reaping all the benefits of technological innovation and that huge improvements in productivity that American workers have made over the last half century, and that is just wrong. There is no ethical way to justify the idea that hardworking people suffer while owning things brings prosperity and wealth.

    If the millionaires that the OP is talking about were the upper echelons of our nation, we would have a pretty fair society. But the tier beyond that, the tier that crashes economies, that buys elections, that writes the laws governing their own industries, that destroys tens of thousands of people's livelihoods in order to line their own pockets... that tier is so unimaginably beyond what the rest of us can reach for. They give nothing back to this nation. There is nothing a person can do to earn that kind of privilege. It is a choice, right now, that we continue to disproportionately reward people for astounding self-interest. It is a choice we should alter.
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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What's your point?
    1) There does not exist enough wealth for everyone to have as much as they want.

    2) In some cases increasing one person's wealth means that someone else must lose wealth.

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    I agree. We are headed in for nasty times I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I see a trending problem that has not existed before and that's the intentional growth of the global population, to increase the world economies size and profitability. The 'powers that be' have purposely built our current economies on a growth formula that is unsustainable, because of natural resources and structural problems supplying the needs of the many.

    And you are right that the two or mulitple distinguishing ideologies (parties) are blinded to this reality, thinking they can fight for what's left of the pie, without facing the overall ramifications that the whole system is in danger.

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    1) There does not exist enough wealth for everyone to have as much as they want.

    2) In some cases increasing one person's wealth means that someone else must lose wealth.
    Survival of the fittest.

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    Hum. Let me see. I guess that this is a net worth thing. A billion is 1000 times more than a million. And a million is 1000 times more than a thousand. I say that a thousandaire is a lot poorer than millionaire. A thousandaire has to consider what he pays for lunch. A millionaire can buy just about any lunch he wants. (We do.) But, a single digit millionaire can't finance a state election candidate or issue, but a billionaire can.

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Survival of the fittest.
    Yup. In flipping a house (one of the things we have done) the investors in the banks lost money and we made money. I guess you could say it was transferred, but it took some work and some risk.

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    So? It is not your child. Nothing is forcing you to love and defend it.




    That is hardly the only alternative. There are many (non-vulgar) libertarian solutions. I just get tired of 'libertarians' defending our current market when it is nothing close to freed.
    LOL what do you want me to do? Lead a revolution?

    I think the market just needs a few tweaks, namely that the government start butting out of it and eliminate corporate and individual income tax and all regulations for starters. But whatever people earn they ought to keep.

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    Re: The Wealth Gap

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Seriously??? Politics baby. You can have great political power with little real wealth.


    You gotta be kidding me baby...It takes wealth to play in politics or you can't play.. I would say that Judges have more power..

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