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Thread: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Supports Liberal causes. And you know that, which means that you have heard about him plenty. And this thread is probably the first time you've heard about Adelson. And yet you complain that you are 'having to hear about Adelson [instead of Soros]', as if there wasn't plenty of news about Soros when he does stuff. As if there was some kind 'out to get conservatives' in the press, when there clearly is not. It is clear that you have a very selective filter, and I was pointing it out.
    Actually down here, you hear a bit about Adelson. However, it's not necessarily political, but more about his attempt to spearhead casino gambling in this area. I guess you could call it political if you want. Down here, it's the conservatives that are all up in arms. They think casinos are the second coming of Gomorrah.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    And you don't think Obama has Soros goop on his chin? Democrats have more mega wealthy donors than Republicans. Start a thread about that.
    Kindly provide proof of that statement.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Kindly provide proof of that statement.
    Why do you think Democrats rail about the Koch Brothers et.al., but don't actually do anything about it? Because they'd have to screw over those Unions, and that's the cash cow, man.

    Open Secret.Org's Top PAC's for the 2012 Cycle:

    PAC Name* Total Expenditures
    Restore Our Future $153,316,373
    ActBlue $147,197,445
    American Crossroads/Crossroads GPS $117,822,763
    Priorities USA Action $75,333,806
    Service Employees International Union $68,290,443
    EMILY's List $44,461,800
    Majority PAC $42,117,050
    House Majority PAC $35,689,886
    Winning Our Future $23,861,421
    FreedomWorks $22,647,384
    AFL-CIO $22,611,402
    American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees $22,450,306
    American Federation of Teachers $22,217,470
    Moveon.org $21,642,681
    Club for Growth $18,727,192
    National Rifle Assn $16,168,199
    Senate Conservatives Fund $15,882,748
    Feinstein for Senate $15,661,451
    National Assn of Realtors $15,399,067
    Teamsters Union $15,392,995


    But that's just one election cycle. Expand it to see who has the most money pouring in over time from single, big donors:


    Open Secrets Heavy Hitters: Largest Donors 1989 to 2014:

    1 ActBlue $100,887,828
    2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $61,339,129
    3 National Education Assn $58,783,738
    4 AT&T Inc $56,789,597
    5 National Assn of Realtors $52,431,322
    6 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $45,516,130
    7 Goldman Sachs $45,112,865
    8 United Auto Workers $41,669,153
    9 Carpenters & Joiners Union $41,478,546 7
    10 Service Employees International Union $38,569,790
    11 Laborers Union $38,089,860
    12 American Federation of Teachers $37,039,075
    13 Communications Workers of America $36,326,885 86% 0%
    14 Teamsters Union $36,153,707
    15 JPMorgan Chase & Co $34,809,107
    16 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,970,100
    17 United Parcel Service $32,565,382
    18 Citigroup Inc $32,406,962
    19 National Auto Dealers Assn $32,136,910
    20 EMILY's List $31,654,912
    21 AFL-CIO $31,558,377


    As you can see, Blue is fairly dominant when it comes to Big Money. For this list I colored purple anything with a 40% or greater portion of their proceeds going to the party that received the minority of their funds. So, for example, UPS is red, but gave 35% of it's money to Democrats. Goldman Sachs is Purple, but gave 44% of it's money to Republicans.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Kindly provide proof of that statement.
    For evidence of more Ubber Wealthy Democract/Progressive activists, you can start with the link below, and then follow the remarkable connections of the leadership, let alone membership, of the Democracy Alliance for even more .0001% pushing the Liberal agenda.

    Democracy Alliance

    The fact is, Soros and his "buddies" make Adelson and the Koch Bros. look like amateur wannabes.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Kindly provide proof of that statement.
    Big-Money Donors Do Not Favor Republicans | National Review Online
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Thank you! I always like cites behind claims to 1) be sure the poster knows what he is talking about and 2) so I can learn. You helped with each. I appreciate it.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    For evidence of more Ubber Wealthy Democract/Progressive activists, you can start with the link below, and then follow the remarkable connections of the leadership, let alone membership, of the Democracy Alliance for even more .0001% pushing the Liberal agenda.

    Democracy Alliance

    The fact is, Soros and his "buddies" make Adelson and the Koch Bros. look like amateur wannabes.
    Thanks for the link, but I don't see anyone on that list that strikes me as a billionaire or member of the Forbes 400.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Why do you think Democrats rail about the Koch Brothers et.al., but don't actually do anything about it? Because they'd have to screw over those Unions, and that's the cash cow, man.

    Open Secret.Org's Top PAC's for the 2012 Cycle:

    PAC Name* Total Expenditures
    Restore Our Future $153,316,373
    ActBlue $147,197,445
    American Crossroads/Crossroads GPS $117,822,763
    Priorities USA Action $75,333,806
    Service Employees International Union $68,290,443
    EMILY's List $44,461,800
    Majority PAC $42,117,050
    House Majority PAC $35,689,886
    Winning Our Future $23,861,421
    FreedomWorks $22,647,384
    AFL-CIO $22,611,402
    American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees $22,450,306
    American Federation of Teachers $22,217,470
    Moveon.org $21,642,681
    Club for Growth $18,727,192
    National Rifle Assn $16,168,199
    Senate Conservatives Fund $15,882,748
    Feinstein for Senate $15,661,451
    National Assn of Realtors $15,399,067
    Teamsters Union $15,392,995


    But that's just one election cycle. Expand it to see who has the most money pouring in over time from single, big donors:


    Open Secrets Heavy Hitters: Largest Donors 1989 to 2014:

    1 ActBlue $100,887,828
    2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $61,339,129
    3 National Education Assn $58,783,738
    4 AT&T Inc $56,789,597
    5 National Assn of Realtors $52,431,322
    6 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $45,516,130
    7 Goldman Sachs $45,112,865
    8 United Auto Workers $41,669,153
    9 Carpenters & Joiners Union $41,478,546 7
    10 Service Employees International Union $38,569,790
    11 Laborers Union $38,089,860
    12 American Federation of Teachers $37,039,075
    13 Communications Workers of America $36,326,885 86% 0%
    14 Teamsters Union $36,153,707
    15 JPMorgan Chase & Co $34,809,107
    16 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,970,100
    17 United Parcel Service $32,565,382
    18 Citigroup Inc $32,406,962
    19 National Auto Dealers Assn $32,136,910
    20 EMILY's List $31,654,912
    21 AFL-CIO $31,558,377


    As you can see, Blue is fairly dominant when it comes to Big Money. For this list I colored purple anything with a 40% or greater portion of their proceeds going to the party that received the minority of their funds. So, for example, UPS is red, but gave 35% of it's money to Democrats. Goldman Sachs is Purple, but gave 44% of it's money to Republicans.
    I wasn't speaking of PAC's... I know they are reasonably evenly divided. PACs are fundamentally political co-ops, so they dilute the influence of an individual. I was interested in the mega contributions of single members of the uber wealthy.... Adelson or Koch levels of weathy, which was the primary focus of this thread.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    The Über rich often crave power and a big government that they think they run will give them more power than a decentralized limited government. That is mainly why so many uber wealthy types are fans of big government. It increases the power of the leashes they hold



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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Thanks for the link, but I don't see anyone on that list that strikes me as a billionaire or member of the Forbes 400.

    I guess the part where I wrote- "Follow the remarkable connections of the leadership, let alone membership" escaped you. Perhaps on purpose?

    Oh well, it won't matter if you don't want to know the truth.

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