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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What has Big Government done? Oh yeah, killed more people and stolen more wealth than all corporations combined throughout history.
    That would be Big Government, both Republican and Democrat, that has killed more people and stolen more wealth for CORPORATIONS, AND IN YOUR NAME AND MINE, i MIGHT ADD. For some reason, I don't feel proud. Ashamed. As long as we keep accepting these annoited politicians who have not demonstrated any skills of job making, resource management, tax reduction, health programs, prosecution of big business, or prosecution of crooked politicians, then we will continue to get what we deserve. We get political scum with two different labels, but from the same crucible.
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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    You have chosen to ignore the people you have been directed to. That is your choice.

    From the start it seems quite clear you have made no attempt to understand what the Democracy Alliance is, and who the members are. The members include some of wealthiest individuals on the planet. It's costs $1 million to join, but you don't know that.

    I suggested you follow the backgrounds of the people on their leadership board. This would include the groups and investment hedge funds they own or represent.

    For example, prior to his recent death, Peter Lewis, CEO, Progressive Insurance, and Forbes billionaire, was a major donor alongside his buddy George Soros. It wouldn't have taken much effort to learn this via the Democracy Alliance. In fact, it was big news in 2012 when he left the Democracy Alliance over differences in opinion over the course of action it was taking.

    Here's a little link.

    Peter Lewis Leaves Democracy Alliance, The Liberal Donor Network

    WASHINGTON -- Peter Lewis, one of the Democracy Alliance's founding billionaires, has dropped out of the influential liberal donor network, people familiar with his decision tell HuffPost

    Hey, it's your choice to be influenced to remain within the boundaries defined for you. Just don't expect much sympathy to your demands when it's obvious you won't make any effort to break out of them.
    OK. You were off target with the discussion. Again, while all of those persons were wealthy in their own right... none of them are remotely in Adelson's financial league. A multi-millionaire is a long, long way from a multi-billionaire in clout. To put millions and billions in perspective: you live 1 million seconds every 12 days; you live one billion seconds every 31.7 years (and one trillion seconds every 31,700 years).

    None of people you keep mentioning are major league election influencers. None of them could singularly effect the outcome of a national election or issue. They were all light-weights in comparison. The list was unimpressive. Even Lewis, though a billionaire, was minor billionaire (worth $1.5B). I was trying understand what point you were trying to make and what I was missing. You kept trying to compare these people to Adelson..... his singular net worth is vastly greater than the combined net worth of this alliance.

    Again, I found the whole line of reasoning here a complete side bar and not relevant to the topic at hand. You were talking about a rich boys club that yielded political power as a co-op (not a big deal as there plenty of those on both sides of the aisle). I was interested (as was the subject of the thread) in SINGLE individuals capable of influencing national elections (because of financial wherewithal and willingness to spend money). It seems to me that list, right now, is comprised of the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, George Soros and Michael Bloomberg; each are mega-billionaires and very politically active.

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    Re: Is Billionare Republican Sheldon Adelson Too Powerful?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    OK. You were off target with the discussion. Again, while all of those persons were wealthy in their own right... none of them are remotely in Adelson's financial league. A multi-millionaire is a long, long way from a multi-billionaire in clout. To put millions and billions in perspective: you live 1 million seconds every 12 days; you live one billion seconds every 31.7 years (and one trillion seconds every 31,700 years).

    None of people you keep mentioning are major league election influencers. None of them could singularly effect the outcome of a national election or issue. They were all light-weights in comparison. The list was unimpressive. Even Lewis, though a billionaire, was minor billionaire (worth $1.5B). I was trying understand what point you were trying to make and what I was missing. You kept trying to compare these people to Adelson..... his singular net worth is vastly greater than the combined net worth of this alliance.

    Again, I found the whole line of reasoning here a complete side bar and not relevant to the topic at hand. You were talking about a rich boys club that yielded political power as a co-op (not a big deal as there plenty of those on both sides of the aisle). I was interested (as was the subject of the thread) in SINGLE individuals capable of influencing national elections (because of financial wherewithal and willingness to spend money). It seems to me that list, right now, is comprised of the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, George Soros and Michael Bloomberg; each are mega-billionaires and very politically active.
    Thank you for your opinion. I disagree. There you go.

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