View Poll Results: If A Third Party Went Mainstream, Which One Would You Want It To Be?

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    2 3.33%
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I picked other. I want a party that is pro-American,pro-bill of rights,opposes amnesty, opposes unrestricted immigration,opposes granting visas to countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with, opposes outsourcing,opposes any trade deal that costs Americans their jobs, opposes worker visas that are used to undermine the wages of Americans, opposes multi/bilingualism, opposes dual citizenship,opposes anchor babies/birth tourism, supports minimum wage,supports raising tariffs on imported goods in order to give American companies equal footing, opposes abortion unless it is to save the life of the woman,supports the 2nd amendment, opposes the government spying on Americans, supports mandating English as our official language and English only for our government functions, does not deep throat cocks of businesses or has their lips on the anuses on business owners(republicans in general and even some democrats are notoriously known for being in bed with businesses),opposes eminent domain(unless it is for PUBLIC roads),supports ease of access only for utilities like water gas and sewer, and does support a social program or two.
    Sounds kinda like the Constitution Party.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Have you ever been to a Libertarian Party meeting? Do you have personal experience with the party itself or is your experience just primarily with asshats on political forums who label themselves libertarians but supported Mitt Romney in 2012?

    I, however, have had experience with the party. I consistently attend local meetings, and state meetings. I even attend national meetings and I can tell you from personal experience that we are united and all, save a few, share the core tenants of Libertarian philosophy.

    My beef is with the Republican "libertarians", of which are basically fake libertarians trying to rope people into continuing to vote for the party. Don't mistake the Randbots for Libertarians.
    I used to attend Libertarian party meetings. They are as predictable and mindless as are the two major parties (Ive attended caucus for both of them as well). Its not at all uncommon to hear "you cant believe that and be a 'real' libertarian."

    There is a reason why there is absolutely no growth in the Libertarian party. You cannot be committed to ideology to the extent that you render yourself irrelevant and expect to be relevant. MOST of the concepts promoted by the Libertarians play well with people from both parties. Limited and responsible government. Strong individual and states rights. SOME of the party ideals simply need to be adjusted...reworked. The Libertarian party should NEVER AGAIN vocalize a single comment about legalizing drugs. Ever. Decriminalize drugs at the federal level, allow states to choose, and the fed should enforce international law. With those minor changes you have a palatable platform that actually accomplishes what its supposed to.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    I think the two parties (Reps-Dems) have made the elective process, so complicated, involved and financially exorbitant that there may never be any competition, that doesn't get absorbed by necessity.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    I'd want it to be the Constitution Party so that right-wingers would have their votes divided between the Constitution Party and the Republican Party, therefore allowing the Democratic Party to win more elections due to the divided vote and forcing the Republican Party to become more moderate.
    The present day Republican Party is pretty much the Constitution Party in all but name, perhaps what the Constitution Party should do is change their political leaning to the old Reaganite Republican Party so it could go mainstream.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Sounds kinda like the Constitution Party.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Some sort of Christian Democratic Party.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I think the two parties (Reps-Dems) have made the elective process, so complicated, involved and financially exorbitant that there may never be any competition, that doesn't get absorbed by necessity.
    You are right. Election laws are written by the Republicans and Democrats and they have written them as a mutual protection act. They have written the laws to make sure no third party can ever become viable and challenge them. If today’s laws were in effect back in 1856, the Whigs would still be with us and there would have been no Republican Party. Money, both major parties pretty much own the mega donors, both major parties have sold their hearts and souls to corporations, Wall Street Firms, lobbyists, special interests in their search for campaign cash. These special interests folks are not interested in third parties at all. Just donating to the major two parties cost them millions, tens of millions even for their inside favors from our elected politicians that they do not want to have to add more money to the till to support a third party. One can be sure all these corporations, lobbyists, etc. are not donating out of their civic duty. They expect something in return, a good return on their investment and they get it.

    Yep, I would say you are right on the money.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Here is something I posted about what it would take for an independent to win the White House several months ago. Take the word independent out and add third party, it pretty still applies.

    Having worked for Ross Perot, an independent candidate for president here is the criteria for an independent to win the White House.
    1. Must be charismatic
    2. Must have a message that resonates with the people that the two major parties are not addressing or it seems they are not addressing
    3. Must have a vision where he wants to lead America
    4. Must have common sense solutions to problems that the two major parties are not attempting to solve or are putting off
    5. Must be independently wealthy.
    A. This is due to the two existing parties write all election laws as a mutual protection act. The independent candidate will need to expand millions to get on the ballot by challenging a lot of these laws state by state.
    B. The independent candidate will need to pay petitioners to get the required signatures for ballot access as described by the different laws of all the states.
    C. Due to the fact that corporations, lobbyists, Wall Street firms, super pacs and pacs, huge money individuals etc. who all donate to the campaigns of the two major parties the independent candidate will not have access to he will have expand a huge amount of his own money to get his own message out.
    6. There has to be a feeling among the electorate that the two major parties are out for themselves and not America. The electorate needs to be disgusted with both major parties.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    The Radcen Party.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The present day Republican Party is pretty much the Constitution Party in all but name,
    Really? Hampering civil liberties? Justifying imperial ambitions? Butting their way into the bedroom? Loving big money?

    the old Reaganite Republican Party so it could go mainstream.
    I bet Iran Contra is really what the founding fathers had in mind when writing the constitution...


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