View Poll Results: If A Third Party Went Mainstream, Which One Would You Want It To Be?

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Did it ever occur to you that the only people who attend those meetings are the ones who buy into the libertarian dogma, but only make up a small percentage of people who would mark "libertarian" on a ballot? Nah, didn't think so.
    Did it ever occur to you that voting for a candidate of a certain party does not make you a member of that party? I voted for Ron Paul, doesn't make me a Republican. I've voted for several Democrats, doesn't make me a Democrat. I'm talking actual members.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Did it ever occur to you that voting for a candidate of a certain party does not make you a member of that party? I voted for Ron Paul, doesn't make me a Republican. I've voted for several Democrats, doesn't make me a Democrat. I'm talking actual members.
    I'm talking actual numbers too. Supposedly, going to a Libertarian Party rally, those are people who are committed to voting for Libertarian Party candidates, right? Ron Paul has been one in the past, he just abandoned the Libertarians when he realized that they'd never put him in office so he ran as a Republican instead. He lost there too. You can run as a candidate in any party you want, it just depends on whether they're willing to put you up there officially or not. You've already said that you think most people who claim to be libertarians are not and then you try to argue that people who attend party rallys, while they might be the true believers, I think we both acknowledge that they are not the majority of people who register Libertarian. So what actual numbers are you trying to argue? That the people who think like you are vastly underrepresented in the Libertarian Party?
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Well, you should have given the option for multiple choices.

    Since I made the forever shameful vote for Obama in 08 I've voted exclusively 3rd Party ever since going between the Libertarians and Greens...

    It depends on the candidate which I would choose

    If Gary Johnson ran as a Libertarian again, I'd have to say Libertarian Party...
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm talking actual numbers too. Supposedly, going to a Libertarian Party rally, those are people who are committed to voting for Libertarian Party candidates, right?
    I'm not talking about "rallys." There are no "rallys." I'm talking about meetings. Actual meetings with actual members. You know, the people who physically run the party.

    You've already said that you think most people who claim to be libertarians are not
    Yeah, I did say that.That's because Tea Partiers and gun nuts are slapping the label on without understanding the philosophy. Most of these people are in the Republican Party and are enthusiastically supporting Rand Paul, who is one of the biggest political chameleons to date.

    That the people who think like you are vastly underrepresented in the Libertarian Party?
    No, that the label is overused by people who don't understand the philosophy.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    The libertarian party is already the third biggest political party in the US. Unfortunately they are being ground down by a conspiracy between the two main parties and the mainstream media is biased against them so I doubt they will go mainstream anytime soon.
    What? No...the Libertarians dont need someone else to oppress them. The party has more holes in its feet than Jesus.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

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    If A Third Party Went Mainstream... Robby, Cephus... knock it off. No personal stuff.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    I would love to see a truly progressive party emerge in the United States -- a socialist-democratic party, that would join the Socialist International and connect to the wider progressive/socialist infrastructure out there.

    Obviously, Americans won't be able to stomach the actual word 'socialist' for another decade or so, so it could be called something else, like the Progressive Party or the Left Party or something.

    But it's sorely needed to countre-balance this rightward shift in American politics: America truly might be in danger of becoming a politically reactionary state, and that has never, ever ended well in ages past.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    If a third party suddenly went mainstream and got national footing, which one would you want it to be?
    I picked other. I want a party that is pro-American,pro-bill of rights,opposes amnesty, opposes unrestricted immigration,opposes granting visas to countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with, opposes outsourcing,opposes any trade deal that costs Americans their jobs, opposes worker visas that are used to undermine the wages of Americans, opposes multi/bilingualism, opposes dual citizenship,opposes anchor babies/birth tourism, supports minimum wage,supports raising tariffs on imported goods in order to give American companies equal footing, opposes abortion unless it is to save the life of the woman,supports the 2nd amendment, opposes the government spying on Americans, supports mandating English as our official language and English only for our government functions, does not deep throat cocks of businesses or has their lips on the anuses on business owners(republicans in general and even some democrats are notoriously known for being in bed with businesses),opposes eminent domain(unless it is for PUBLIC roads),supports ease of access only for utilities like water gas and sewer, and does support a social program or two.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    If the Green Party were to begin to approach mainstream status the Dems would shift their focus and absorb them in. Simply as a matter of its own survival. Many, if not most, Greens would accept this as it would quicken adoption of their desired beliefs.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I doubt the Tea Party will form it's own party. They are pretty much just an extension of the GOP anyway.
    I doubt it too but think they're more likely to become a major party than any others.

    Yes, they're an extension of the GOP but a very discontent critical of everybody extension often GOP. The only people they are practically willing to be worthy of being called Americans are fellow tea party followers and right-wing media pundits.
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