View Poll Results: If A Third Party Went Mainstream, Which One Would You Want It To Be?

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    2 3.33%
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's not going to happen. The only way a party can go mainstream is if it's platform appeals to a wide swath of American voters and I don't see any of the third parties that we have in America today doing that.
    I would've said at one time (Perot grass roots) that there were enough Independents to create a party, in between the Republicans and Democrats. The problem with them, is that they don't have enough issues they agree on, they simply disagree with the other two dominate parties.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Problem is that many fiscal conservatives latch onto the libertarian theme of free markets and personal freedom (for them) and don't really give a rat's arse about the rest. Libertarianism, to them, becomes a talking point and a rationalization instead of a heartfelt belief.
    There are a ton of people that I know who wear the libertarian label but really are single-issue voters, they don't give a damn about the rest of the platform.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Today, that's true but there was a time when the Republican party was actually conservative and that wasn't the case. Yet even though I am very much a conservative, I'd never vote Libertarian because I want a lot more personal responsibility than personal freedom.
    With personal freedom, comes personal responsibility. The two are not mutually exclusive.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    With personal freedom, comes personal responsibility. The two are not mutually exclusive.
    Funny, I see a lot of people who claim to be libertarian who only want personal freedom and no responsibility for their decisions at all. They want to be able to make decisions that they want to make but not have to consider whether these are good decisions to begin with.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Funny, I see a lot of people who claim to be libertarian who only want personal freedom and no responsibility for their decisions at all. They want to be able to make decisions that they want to make but not have to consider whether these are good decisions to begin with.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Funny, I see a lot of people who claim to be libertarian who only want personal freedom and no responsibility for their decisions at all. They want to be able to make decisions that they want to make but not have to consider whether these are good decisions to begin with.
    I see this a lot, too.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I think you are being rather kind of the prospects of the Libertarians.
    No, go, going off the hypothetical numbers rocket was giving was being rather kind.

    I dont think any 3rd party has any chance to out forward even double digit numbers on even a semi regular basis at a federal level.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Key word: claim.
    Since it's just a label and people can pick whatever label they like to refer to themselves, so what? Nobody elected you the official arbiter of what is and what is not a libertarian. If we go by people who only adopt the entire party platform, libertarianism looks even more pathetic than it otherwise is.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I see this a lot, too.
    This is especially the druggies who only want to take drugs and don't care about anything else in the Libertarian Party platform. I can't tell you how many of those people have also said that they expect others to take care of them, give them government checks, cover the cost of the care for their health problems that come from using drugs, they just want the freedom to stick a needle in their arms.

    I'd argue that most self-labeled libertarians are closer to this than the Libertarian Party would want to admit.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    No thanks. I'd rather people with a shred of economic sense be in charge of the fiscal side of things. Liberals couldn't be more financially illiterate if they tried.
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