View Poll Results: If A Third Party Went Mainstream, Which One Would You Want It To Be?

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    14 23.33%
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Really surprised you didn't at least put Tea Party in the poll choices.

    I voted other.

    I want a fiscally conservative - socially liberal - completely non-religious party to emerge from the depths.
    Does that not describe the Libertarian Party?

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    I think the Tea Party has the greatest likelihood of going mainstream. They are the most active current constituency of the GOP. The Tea Party is often at odds with core Republicans who embrace a "big tent" model while the Tea Party is known for refusing to compromise and is diametrically opposed the the Big Tent concept, unless you mean everybody vote republican then shut up if you aren't in lock step with the Tea Party.

    If the Tea Party does form its own party I think what would happen is they'd create coalitions with republicans to compete with the Democrats to control state legislatures and congress.
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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I think the Tea Party has the greatest likelihood of going mainstream. They are the most active current constituency of the GOP. The Tea Party is often at odds with core Republicans who embrace a "big tent" model while the Tea Party is known for refusing to compromise and is diametrically opposed the the Big Tent concept, unless you mean everybody vote republican then shut up if you aren't in lock step with the Tea Party.

    If the Tea Party does form its own party I think what would happen is they'd create coalitions with republicans to compete with the Democrats to control state legislatures and congress.
    I doubt the Tea Party will form it's own party. They are pretty much just an extension of the GOP anyway.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Does that not describe the Libertarian Party?
    I would say they are the closest thing to what I've described, but not quite what I want.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I would say they are the closest thing to what I've described, but not quite what I want.
    What about the Libertarian Party do you not like? Not attacking you, I'm just curious.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I would like to see all of the so called libertarians who are trying to hijack the Republican Party have the courage of their supposed convictions and go their own way supporting a Libertarian Party. And the same for the supposed libertarian voters who somehow someway pretend they are libertarians but manage to pull that R lever when they go into the election booth.
    Of course you would, it'd split one of the two parties votes to some degree thus making your desired party win. Stop acting like it's some kind of notion of wanting to see "Courage" for them standing by their "convictions" that inspired your answer rather than pure self interest.

    Of the three listed, I'd say the Libertarian party but it'd need likely significant retooling to:

    1. Be viable in any way in the mainstream
    2. Successfully pull significant numbers from both of the two main parties to be viable.

    The reality is, given our current system, it's not realistic to have a viable third party on a national scale. PERHAPS on a state level it could work in a narrow set of circumstances. But the way our political system has grown and become entrenched in the two party setup, there's just no real feasible way for a legitimately "mainstream" viable 3rd party.

    A 3rd party becoming mainstream would most likely create two non-viable 2nd tier parties and one defacto dominant one until such a point that one of the two second tier parties devours the other and again we return to 2 party status.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    That's sad but true. However, the Libertarian Party has been growing pretty rapidly the last few years. Most candidates at the state level are consistently getting around 8% in elections, for a third party that's a pretty big deal. The numbers are continually growing. Gary Johnson, the 2012 Presidential candidate, has been involved in some lawsuits to make it easier for third parties to get in the debates through his organization "Our America Initiative." I remain optimistic for the future.
    Gotta run, but I'll pull my info later (and update it for this last election) regarding the "praid growth" of the Libertarian party on a national level.

    After decades of pushing, they're barely scratching under 10% in some states. When it comes to national elections, their "gains" are like saying you're adding to the Atlantic by pouring a gallon of water into it.

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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Really surprised you didn't at least put Tea Party in the poll choices.

    I voted other.

    I want a fiscally conservative - socially liberal - completely non-religious party to emerge from the depths.
    So, the Modern Whigs?


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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Of course you would, it'd split one of the two parties votes to some degree thus making your desired party win. Stop acting like it's some kind of notion of wanting to see "Courage" for them standing by their "convictions" that inspired your answer rather than pure self interest.

    Of the three listed, I'd say the Libertarian party but it'd need likely significant retooling to:

    1. Be viable in any way in the mainstream
    2. Successfully pull significant numbers from both of the two main parties to be viable.

    The reality is, given our current system, it's not realistic to have a viable third party on a national scale. PERHAPS on a state level it could work in a narrow set of circumstances. But the way our political system has grown and become entrenched in the two party setup, there's just no real feasible way for a legitimately "mainstream" viable 3rd party.

    A 3rd party becoming mainstream would most likely create two non-viable 2nd tier parties and one defacto dominant one until such a point that one of the two second tier parties devours the other and again we return to 2 party status.
    Actually, I think haymarket's got a point. How many people do we see here who call themselves "Libertarian," yet never stray from socially conservative thought. If dp is any indication of the body politic as a whole, if all the libertarians actually voted for the Libertarian party, they'd BE a major player.


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    Re: If A Third Party Went Mainstream...

    Libertarian Party has the platform to accommodate most Americans. That is if we only gave it some thought, instead of rejecting it outright as not conforming with the same of stuffy two party system.

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