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The IQ tests show that.Everyone knows that IQ is heritable to some extent. That in no way proves blacks have lower IQs.
The IQ tests show that.Everyone knows that IQ is heritable to some extent. That in no way proves blacks have lower IQs.
I don't recall suggesting that the environment doesn't play a factor along with genetics.As you can see, that is not what you claimed.
As my source points out, the IQ gap between races has gone down about 5 points in a matter of years. That strongly suggests environmental factors playing the key role in any differences, since it sure ain't genetics causing the gap to narrow.
I don't recall suggesting that the environment doesn't play a factor along with genetics.
The IQ tests show that.
The paper you linked to supports my comments.
LOL That one really backfired on your ass.
I don't recall suggesting that the environment doesn't play a factor along with genetics.
The paper you linked to supports my comments.
LOL That one really backfired on your ass.
You proved it for me.You have not proven any genetic factor tying race and intelligence.
I realize that economic factors play a huge role in violent crimes such as robbery. Money is the motive.You have not even attempted to tie race and "predisposition to violence".
However, forcible rape is a crime in which there is no economic payoff. So you can't blame socioeconomics.
You proved it for me.
I realize that economic factors play a huge role in violent crimes such as robbery. Money is the motive.
However, forcible rape is a crime in which there is no economic payoff. So you can't blame socioeconomics.
According to FBI crime statistics, blacks commit 32.9% of forcible rapes, yet they make up a mere 12.6% of the population. How do you explain this huge discrepancy? I think there's obviously a genetic factor at play.
Causes of sexual violence are debated and explanations of the cause include socioeconomics, anger, power, sadism, sexual pleasure, psychopathy, ethical standards, laws, attitudes toward the victims and evolutionary pressures.
Poverty is linked to both the perpetration of sexual violence and the risk of being a victim of it
:lamo
I can't believe that's real. There is no way anyone's grasp of socioeconomics is that shallow.
No, actually I did not. What I proved is that genetics is a factor in intelligence, not that race was. Nice try, but fail
So you don't have anything in the way of, you know, research or science, just that you think something must be true? Well, I never would have guessed that...
Oh, and Causes of sexual violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I can't believe that's real. There is no way anyone's grasp of socioeconomics is that shallow.
Japanese people are the highest in IQ with a mean of 140.
I think it makes some good points, however, my issue is that the "black culture" and "poor culture" options are viewed as separate and divorced. My issue with the (generally conservative) assertion that black culture is to blame for lack of black progress is that that view tends put culture in a vacuum - in other words, there is something specific about black people and their culture that is holding them back, rather than the view that any race that has gone through what blacks have gone through in American history would likely be facing the same situation.
Whereas I personally believe that if the roles had been reversed - this is is a hypothetical of course - that if blacks had colonized America and enslaved whites and marginalized their opportunities, then whites would be in the same exact situation as blacks are in now. Racial minorities are in their respective situations today because of history and because of ongoing social forces stemming from that history. What many people like to do to too often is to blame the victim. Is that to say that black people shouldn't do more to uplift themselves? Of course not, but if we're going to actually achieve racial equality one day we also have to understand the real root of the problems themselves, and simply blaming blacks for their own problems is not a conclusion that fits the evidence.
Citation?
I looked in several books, I cannot find it and this is very frustrating to not be able to find the information when needed. For now this will have to do:
Average IQ in US and 80 other nations
In the above it is not 140 but 105.
Still they are ahead. Would remain ahead and may not join the stagnation time proposed in the post above.
Basically to put it more succintly, I am trying to draw a distinction between:
1) "Black culture" (and the negative aspects thereof) are the product of black people being black and lazy and ignorant, versus
2) "Black culture" (and the negative aspects thereof) are the product of centuries of oppression, segregation, marginalization and discrimination. I think this is a key difference between how left and right wingers talk about race.
Yeah, I didn't think the average Japanese person is a genius. That was a pretty ridiculous claim.
That is a classic example of a false dichotomy.I think that there is an enormous amout of hypocrisy and lack of insight that surrounds this issue. It comes down to a very simple question. Either you believe that Black people are inherently lazy and immoral or you believe that a cultures history in large part shapes how that culture evolves.
Why would you propose IQ stagnation in the first place?In the above it is not 140 but 105.
Still they are ahead. Would remain ahead and may not join the stagnation time proposed in the post above.
Culture of poverty option.
Laziness, lack of work ethic, unskilled status, and a lack of education are the sources of poverty. I don't give a damn what color you are.
Blacks just seem more prone to blame external forces, such as "the man".
Why would you propose IQ stagnation in the first place?
And IIRC the so-called "Flynn effect" is solely based on an outlier study with a very small sample size.
Everybody blames "the man". Why is one group's "blaming the man" valid, while another's is not or seen as a "detrimental excuse"?
This forum is fill to the brim with people "blaming the man" for their lot in life.
How convenient.The difference who The Man is. The man is not the same for everyone.